oldmanfan

People are talking about the odds favoring going for it vs punting, probabilities, quoting some NY Times website and so on. What yesterday's game and decision were would be considered as statistical outliers. The type of game yesterday was like 8 standard deviations away from the mean. i did not like the decision at the time. With reflection, it was correct and not just because they won. They had over 4 minutes left. In a game where each team had had one decent drive. The game situation clearly favored the defense. Pinning the down in their end opened up three potential ways to win. A safety becomes a real possibility. Plus you stop them done there you are potentially closer to FG range or a TD. A turnover down there, a real possibility given the conditions, also pretty much wins the game. In the end the decision got them an extra 14 yards. Not insignificant given the conditions. He trusted his players to make plays on D. They did. And on offense. And they did.

I looked at each of your posts in this thread. No numbers anywhere. Either show the math that says you're right or be quiet about the math showing him to be wrong. i didn't like it. But then started thinking. You don't get the yard they're closer to a FG to win and they had momentum. Pin the back you get better field position if you hold them. Have to hold them either way. Holding them deeper gives you better position. and in a game like that 14 yards is a lot. But that's math, a concept apparently foreign to you. Then show the math. You haven't yet.

You can't show the math then. What a tool

Of course it is. What a dumb statement.

Show me the math. Write it out so we can see the numbers. Or be quiet. i didn't like the call but you can't argue with the result.

Opening day 1960. Memories are vague but I was there.

I wish I could be there. Loved those snow games!

Yeah Darraugh wasn't horrible. Hobert to me was the worst. JP had the talent but could never handle the mental aspects of the position.

It was more Littman that his wife I always thought.

There would not have been enough electrons in the universe to handle the Kemp vs. Lamonica posts.

Dan Darraugh didn't make your list?

For which middle school?

I'd put Dennis Shaw in there somewhere. If he had not gotten hurt no telling what he and OJ would have done

People who say we should just cut guys a year into their career are the same types that get all pissy when they have to wait more than 5 minutes in the McDonald's drive through line.

Interesting that two of them were quitters. One because he felt threatened by Marv, one because he felt threatened by Whaley.

You got it.

Remember them well. Trivia: who was their first draft pick?

If Rodak is dumb for writing such a column, how would one describe the members in this chat room demanding that McDermott be fired?

Helmets can be lethal, but NFL players have a lot more protection than hockey players do with their own hard helmets, pads, etc. The answer for the NFL is to eject guys and then suspend them multiple games for the kind of stuff Gronk did and for the kind of stuff you saw last night. The problem I see with your approach is you don't really know where it ends. When does the football ref step in and say enough. With hockey they kind of tire themselves out. And not that I'm a huge fan of the hockey fighting either

Do the most thorough scouting job they can and if they see a guy they think is the guy, then move up and get him. And I would say to those advocating for that, if the pick doesn't work out (as at least 50% of round 1 QBs) then don't come back on here and second guess the pick.

It works in hockey because their sticks can be a lethal weapon if swung at a guy. yes the Gronkowski hit was punk and potentially very dangerous, but would not have the same potential for lethal injury that clocking someone with a hockey stick would have. Plus if you let NFL players do this, you'd start seeing things like cheap shots to a guy's knees that could cost a career.

Right. I can't stand Brady and Belichick, and what Gronkowski did was a punk move. And I'd go after him in a couple weeks. But that doesn't mean you ignore the obvious. Brady and Belichick are the best ever at what they do. You can hate them as we all do but to deny that simply shows envy.

Regarding #3 their QB was hurt and receivers weren't getting separation. Regarding conservative they ran stuff with Webb they hadn't showed all year long. And finally when you say a team you know is superior, you've answered the question. They are just really good.

Continuing to prove my point

Well, my reply would be to grow up. Acknowledging the excellence of the Pats does not mean in any way that one is happy the Bills lost. It is simply recognizing the Pats are a great football team.