oldmanfan

Ok boys, let’s matriculate the ball down the field.

Is he Catholic? Just looked it up, he’s Presbyterian. So the comment about Catholic priests is not really relevant.

Then we’re different.

That’s me. I’m with Shaw.

I think she has a lot of education in statistical methods, and that her difficulty in predicting outcomes is a testimony to the complexity of NFL play.

Very proud of the organization for taking the lead on diversity and inclusion. Now if they would only extend my daughter an invitation to sing the anthem.....

Say goodbye to him

We’ll see

Why should he tip his hand?

That would be great but my assumption is we lose to the Pats every time so long as Brady and Belicheat are there.

It is not sample size, it is the approach each regime takes. That is independent of sample size. Do you think based on what you know of Terry Pegula that he would be serviced by immigrant women in a massage parlor? Do you think based on what we know of McD and Beane they would allow their employees to deliberately deflate footballs to gain an illegal advantage? Would they put up with Allen then lying about it? Would they illegally film other teams’ practices? Would they do that? You are taking one guy in Brown, a guy they did not sign, a guy they did not bring in, and trying to say that means they are likely no different that the Pats, who not only did all the above but brought this guy in after all the nonsense with the Raiders and still plan to play him after these latest allegations. You really think that comes close to equivalence?

You are wrong. Go back to the OP and Shaw specifically refers to Pegula, McD, and Beane. Is everyone on the roster and coaching staff going to be perfect? No. Shaw and I both mentioned Incognito as a guy they took inafter frank conversations with him. I don’t think you read the OP before posting this. Regarding the latter that can be disputed to put it mildly.

Calling people liars because they don’t happen to concur with your slant on things is ridiculous and you should be glad you’re not doing that to my face. Shaw was quite clear that this regime has had some guys with questionable stuff, Incognito being an example. What happened there was Terry and Kim had to be convinced by Richie that he had learned from his previous stuff and would straighten up. And he did. And while we can’t know for sure when they renegotiated his contract it may be they saw chinks in Richie’s armor and wanted to start guarding against that if he went off the deep end. Which he did and then was gone. Will this regime be perfect? Maybe not, none are. Will they be as Shaw states as amoral as the Pats? Not a chance.

Let’s deal with facts. The Bills took a look before the latest crap and said no. The Pats said yes even after the latest crap. That’s reality.

Inquiries are not hirings. So no , it is not strike one. It is ball one. What if in his inquiry red flags came up on his conduct and they decided to pass?

My best to my friends here on the site and to Mrs. Peko. Fight the good fight . I have a procedure in the morning to remove a big squamous cell carcinoma from my forehead and was feeling a little sorry for myself. Reading the comments here bring it back into perspective.

We will see how the investigation goes. But I would argue given the texts of the emails he sent, the accusations, his stuff with the helmets and his previous stuff, I think the NFL would be justified in putting him on the exempt list and keeping him there while these current allegations are investigated, and I would make counseling mandatory for him to potentially be removed from exempt status.

It makes no sense statistically to compare just by years if you’re talking about the philosophy of an organization. Philosophy is dictated by leadership. You compare based on the different regimes. And we should all hope McD and Beane are here 20 years because it will mean their approach is highly successful.

A number of variables, which I agree is needed to evaluate a QB. I’d like to know why each variable is weighted by a specific amount. How was that determined?

I rewatched the first half last night. The only two passes you could say he missed were the overthrow to Jones down the left side, and he threw wide to Beasley on a 10-15 yard throw to the right side. Every other throw was on target including the pick 6. I say again and will continue to say that when you hit a guy in the hands it cannot be totally in the QB. The tipped pass INT was a good play by the defender. The fumble was his fault, he needs to take the sack. The bad snap is just that. Nitpicking a young QB can be fun and clever I suppose but has no basis in reality in terms of his long term potential. It ignores that it takes two to tango and in that regard I always think back to one of the most historical plays in NFL history. The Catch. Some think Montana was trying to throw it out of the end zone but Clark goes way up there and makes a legendary catch. Did Montana make a bad throw? No. If Allen has thrown such a ball Sunday and say Zay went high up there to make the catch, what we’d be reading from some here is how it was a horrible throw, that Zay saved Allen, that he should have seen a different guy open, etc. , etc. and that just gets to the point where criticism gets overblown. QBs aren’t perfect. And younger QBs more so.

Yes, because that has been their regime including the owner and HC. Robert Kraft doesn’t run his organization the same way as did Billy Sullivan. Nor does Belicheat do what say Ray Berry did as their HC. McD and Beane have their philosophy of constructing a team. It is different than what say Lou or Marv did. Terry has a different ownership approach than Ralph. To say the Bills have bad actors in the past is immaterial to what the current guys are doing. Just as it is immaterial that past coaches or owners of the Pats to my knowledge never reached out to put a guy like AB on their roster. What matters is what Belicheat and Kraft are doing. And they brought this guy on (and Belicheat is getting roasted for his typical non-answer stuff about it today). I like what the current guys are doing. That’s what’s relevant.

Shaw’s point is about the current regime. I wish people would not lump different owners/GMs/HCs together.

I’m in Shaw’s camp on this, and recognize opposing views. I was actually thinking about this tonight, on the way to church ironically, and what I would do as an owner if my GM came to me about having AB on the team. And I would say no, that I respect my fan base and the women of all ages in that base too much to bring someone in accused of such a thing.

I appreciate the effort. Since it’s subjective you’ll get people agreeing and disagreeing which is the fun part of the board.

That is why I said we have to wait for the investigation. Do I side more with women in this situation in general? Yes.