oldmanfan

I have to admit you’ve lost me here. I am a political independent, actually quite conservative in a number of areas, so when you use the all inclusive “we” and try and lump me in with left wingers, that dog just don’t hunt. I think you’re trying to bring up the idea that Obama’s administration tried to do something to take down Trump in the 2016 election? This has been looked at, one FBI agent was nailed for screwing up. But the ultimate decision was that there was cause to look into it. Barr’s guy is looking into it, and if he finds something then those responsible should be held to account. But since nothing came out before the election (when it would have had obvious advantages politically) I suspect it will be like Ron Johnson’s Senate investigation of Ukraine that ultimately showed nothing. But feel free to be specific in your thoughts without reference to Game of Thrones (never seen it) and we can discuss over a virtual beer. I think Trump lost for one reason: too many people were just tired of his act. Tired of the insults, tired of the tweets all the time, tired of the tone. Biden offers a change. I think we need to come together as a country, thought so 4 years ago. One guy has said he wants to work towards that, one guy by his actions said he didn’t and was voted out.

Biden has appealed to folks, even those who voted against him, to come together, and I hope that happens. I do not recall anytime during his term where Trump appealed to those opposing him to come together.

Why don't you just admit to the fact that you actively rooted for the Bills, the team you are supposedly such a fan of, to lose last year? You are not a fan of the Bills, you are an entertainment fan. People that actively root for a team to lose cannot then be a fan of the team.

You are not a Bills fan. You actively supported them losing last year because they weren’t exciting enough for you.

He is not racist because he put a crime bill together which had both intended and unintended consequences. And as for the pandemic he is going to put together experts in the field and rely on their expertise, which is a welcome change.

You have to consider what was going on at the time. Drugs were destroying our country and our cities. As I recall tougher policies had a lot of bipartisan support even with African American legislators. Time showed the policies were too draconian, and were corrected.

You can continue acting like a child, but the country understands that Biden will be our next President.

Did I support his post?

You had a my way or the highway president who thoughts insults were a negotiating strategy.

It’s about working together for the good of the country. Apparently you don’t want that.

Let me put it another way. It is time to act like a grown up. Neither political party, neither political persuasion (conservative or liberal) has a monopoly on the best ideas for this country. To get big things accomplished both sides have to work together. There will be compromise, and then consensus, and only that way will we move forward. That does not mean abandoning principals, or surrendering to the will of enemies. It is how adults work t ultimately be good servants to the people.

I don't think so. If Biden reaches out and he and the House come up with plans for infrastructure and such, and McConnell blocks everything, I think in 2022 the people will decide to throw the Republicans out of DC.

It's satire, and not particularly amusing. But once Trump is out of office this kind of stuff will fade away. I do expect he will wind up serving time, however. I think the SDNY and NYS Attorney General will bring charges shortly after he leaves office. And I don't say that in a gloating manner. Everyone in the country has a choice after every election. Do you want to join in the political conversation and work together with our elected representatives to make this country better, or do you not? Under Trump, the norm was polarization. Under Biden, his stated goal is to bring people together. Better to come together than stay apart.

OK boys, let's matriculate the ball down the field!

Yes, the country is too polarized, which is why we have to bring things back together. But saying it is Biden that will want people to obey his dictates is silly given what you just watched for 4 years.

This country has been great and will continue to be so. You had a president who lied repeatedly the past 4 years.

Whatever. Your act is already old and tired.

It is not stolen. Be part of the “resistance” as you put it. Act like a tough guy. The rest of the country will move on and understand that the peaceful transition of power is part of what makes our country great.

I guess you and your brethren will continue to sit in your echo chamber. In the meantime, on January 20th we will have a new President who wants to bring the country together. What neither far right or far left people want to understand is that political political extremists will never get what they want. They don’t have the numbers to run the show.

Thanks for playing. Your guy lost. You need to accept it.

You might start by not calling someone you disagree with a clown.

Being an Internet tough guy isn’t going to help. Your guy lost, and I understand you’re upset. But just like I told folks 4 years ago that hated Trump, we’ll survive. You don’t like Biden but we’ll survive. We can’t continue to be so polarized as a nation.

McConnell: our goal is to make Obama a one term president. So stop. As a country we need to pull together again. We need to have vigorous debate but then our leaders must compromise and work together to get things done. Reagan and O’Neil were as politically opposite as you could get but they had drinks together every week and got things done. We have to get that attitude back.

The only court case they won was to move an observer a few feet closer. Time to accept reality. Your guy lost.

Your guy lost. Accept it.