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i was just thinking...this has completely come off the rails.

i don't think the choices are completely to shut down or limp along. in ny we had a total shut down, had a phased opening period, and are still holding strong. that's how it should be. a lot has to do with how people were educated or how serious they took the initial shut down. being in wny, most of us took it very seriously. we played by the rules, wore and still wear masks, social distanced, etc. my sister in law was in palm springs, and they were working on a completely different set of rules. it was a big joke what was happening up north. she was out on boats, kids hanging out with whom ever they wanted. it was going to go away "once the weather became warm". we saw that in a lot of other states as well. well look were those states are now. if people actually used their heads and played by the rules, we would not be in this position today.

obviously when people talk in extremes, the conversation stalls. i've been worried about two things...my kid's health and education. after doing some basic research and having a face to face conversation with our peds, i'm comfortable with our daughter going into that environment. concerning my kid's education, even at this early stage, there's no way learning on line will be even close enough to ok. life needs to move forward carefully.

some may depending on the age. and as mentioned with kids under 11, there seems to be a different take on the spread. it's up to the adults to help them with the day to day negotiation of it. as i mentioned, our daughter hugged a positive covid child. we followed the guidelines of the department of health, and we were all ok. besides...i don' want virtual learning. it's not a replacement and does nothing positive for the kids. it's amazing that people without kids are taking such a hard stance on it. i feel my kid/kids can get a good in school education while being safe. i'm even looking into private schools not that are going 5 days a week. enough is enough. every time a business reopens, there's such a fear attached to it. within a few weeks when everything has shown to go smooth, the nonsense calms down. schools will work the same way.

again...this will happen in every work environment. you know what else will happen? the job force will take a hit when people have no idea how to deal with care. there's a big trickle down effect with schools closing.

but isn't this the case for all work environments? hell, my staff is in a way more "dangerous" situation than anyone at a school. we put systems in place, have precautions, ppe, etc. again, we may have to close for a period of time due to an incident, but we have to navigate through this the best we can. all work places have risks. we can eliminate risks...just try to greatly minimize them.

you've been to an applebees over 100 times?

this did not just happen.

that's awesome! congrats! the reason i ask i because families will have different problems to navigate depending how old the kids are. i have not been cavalier with the virus at all. as some posters know from all the crying i did, my office was shout down for 10 weeks during the quarantine. no earning at all for two and a half months. i'm the primary earner in my house, and i had just opened a building we finished constructing a few months earlier. it was not fun. i say this because i'm still someone who constantly monitors how covid is progressing because there's a chance i could be shut down again. i avoid big crowds, i always wear a mask in public, and we've spent thousands getting my office up to code so we can operate. i can be done. even with this going on, i'm still 100% for the schools reopening, as long as it's done safely. if a child or teacher/staff is not in a medical position to return, there need to be alternatives in place for them. kids learning through zoom was a complete disaster last year. can it be done if it has to? i suppose, but there's no substitute for in class learning. some kids were done in one day what they were supposed to do for the week. i'm sure it will be smoother this semester, but if the numbers support a reopening, there should be an option to go 5 days. if some parents or staff don't want to do that...stay home. an article was posted before about a covid positive child in a daycare. that was my daughter's day care, and according to the department of health, my daughter hugged the covid positive child. straight up hugged her. i was freaking out thinking about my 80 year old parents, would i have to close down again, my nieces and nephews that she had seen, etc. we spoke with the department of health, and kept her away from other kids and adults she had not been into contact with. they wanted me to monitor symptoms, but i did not have to stop work. it was a long two weeks, but fortunately today everyone is fine. my point with all of this is that there will be incidences, but they have to be managed properly like this on was. the world can not stay shut, because we really don't know how long this is going to go on. should it be a free for all? of course not, but if the numbers are kept low, and guidelines are followed, there is no reason to not move forward with life imo.

How old are your kids?

you don't feel the finger lakes region in ny should reopen schools?

in what regard?

this is at my child's day care, in her room.

each state will be different depending on how their numbers are. this is nothing new. as i mentioned in another thread, our peds office released a letter about a week ago concerning the schools in our area re-opening. they were fully on board considering whit reopening in this area in a responsible way. they were absolutely blasted by calls to take it down, contrary to the evidence. they were getting calls from people without children in the practice to take it down. tons of public pressure. i have a child entering into school this fall. my wife and sister in law both work for the school system. we have elderly parents. we are both 100% on board with schools re-opening in our region.

depends on the area. where i am in ny, there's no real reason not to open. this is coming from someone who has been very conservative about opening too.

the american academy for peds. we had a long discussion with our peds as well concerning it. they're on board. pretty much everywhere.

for schools? medical professionals that treat children are all for the reopening.

oh i'm with ya. my wife works for a school district where online learning is a massive challenge. she has kids who want to go to school just to escape their home life. those are the kids i'm really worried about. a week or two ago, our peds office released a statement concerning schools reopening, and they were 100% behind the kids going back full time. boy were they blasted in the public. the doctors we getting phone calls from people who didn't even have kids in the practice, demanding to be called back! they don't have time in their day for it. similar thing happened to our daycare. a kid was covid positive, so they shut down the rooms and not the entire center. you would think they had murdered a child. I'm fairly conservative when it comes to reopening...i think it should absolutely be done, but with precaution. i do feel schools should be open full time. this "part time" learning just isn't going to work.

we're right in the middle of this ourselves. we have one of our kids on two wait lists to local private schools until we figure exactly what's going on with our district. we may have to go to a private school just due to scheduling issues. that being said, you don't have to be wealthy to go to a private school, you just have to be willing to spend some extra money. it should quite a bit less than daycare. it's a mess.

happy birfday.

me too.

virg is back.

hey, gug.

i weep for humanity.

webster park was my jam at one point. love that place.