JohnBonhamRocks

Agreed on marginal starter. I think he is being paid about what he is worth though, given how inflated the QB market is becoming (Garoppolo and Cousins). Maybe it'll be more like a 6th or 7th, but I think a team will give up something for Taylor. We should be able to move him for some value, whether it be a late round pick or maybe a player who is on the outs for that team. That is why he's being mentioned. He's a Bills QB on the trading block being discussed in a thread about a team that needs QBs...

Okay, yeah, I'm not arguing with that. I see the poster I quoted said "recently" and in my mind I was just going off what the new regime did with last year. I do think that's going too far back for "recently" and that Lawson should get a "jury still out" tag until mid-season or so this year. I'd also put Brown as better than "decent" and Glenn as better than "good". Here's to hoping the new offensive scheme will help produce an uptick/return to form for Miller, too.

I agree with the overall notion of giving up the picks being worth it, but tough to make the point about not hitting on picks after watching White and Dawkins play last year.

Too old.

I get that. I just hate the "bird in the hand" valuation, meaning having to give up next year's 1st for a value of this year's 2nd. Let's hope we can use the Panthers ties to get a softer trade up tax.

#21 + #22 = 89.59, which leaves 32.39 left. Throw in #96 (6.87) and we're at 25.52 left, which is about pick #40-41. What it depends on is Glenn's value. We have to do this analysis under the assumption that he is healthy and cleared to play, otherwise why trade for him? Here is a comparable scenario: SEA traded a 2018 3rd round pick and 2019 2nd round pick (essentially two 3rds this year, which is essentially one 2nd this year) for HOU's LT Duane Brown and a 5th round pick. That makes me think Glenn would be worth about a late 2nd round pick, which is not too far off the 25.52 value we were left with above. Using Hill's chart, the 130% multiplier, and the Brown trade, I think we could swing the following: #21, #22, #96, #149 (or a 2019 4th), and Glenn for #2, which would be huge in keeping future high picks and our two 2nd rounders this year.

I'm aboard the Chris Hubbard train. Cheap legit starting RT.

Those helmets are awful. Good on them.

As an Irish fan, it's just salt in the wound that this was posted by a Bama fan...

#1FB: Kyle Williams (1 rush, 1 yard, 1 TD, 1 playoff berth)

I think if Alex Smith got the return that he did, then Taylor can get at least a 5th.

Agreed, and I'm not saying anyone in particular, but I've seen over and over on this board people say that there is no way we could get anything for him, an opinion with which I strongly disagree.

I was thinking about potential trade partners for Taylor, and settled on the Cardinals as the most likely, maybe equal to the Broncos. I know people think Taylor is complete trash, but I could see us getting a 5th for him from one ot those teams.

Meh, the drought is over. Curses got reset imho. I think McCown, Fitzpatrick, and Moore would be the best back-up QB options if we're rolling out a rookie QB day 1.

Is there some Fitzpatrick curse of which I am not aware?

I mean, McCown put up pretty good numbers last year considering he was on the Jets, but okay. If you think Mayfield starts day 1, then I propose signing Fitzpatrick as his back-up. What say you?

He's not our mole!

Following Joe B's instructions, I hope it's McCown and Mayfield.

I get that he doesn't have ideal height and grabbed his crotch, but why are people so scared of insanely good production, the necessary tools, and leadership? "Hello, would you please put me through to Mr. Reich? Thank you." Starting offer: #21, #22, & Glenn

Probably not super realistic (at all), but I'd take this with McCown as a bridge QB all day. Draft Tek, User-Voted, Difficult: 21: R1P21 CB JOSHUA JACKSON IOWA 22: R1P22 QB LAMAR JACKSON LOUISVILLE 53: R2P21 DL DA'RON PAYNE ALABAMA 56: R2P24 LB RASHAAN EVANS ALABAMA 96: R3P32 DL RASHEEM GREEN USC 123: R4P21 RB BO SCARBROUGH ALABAMA 160: R5P21 TE HAYDEN HURST SOUTH CAROLINA 168: R5P29 C JAMES DANIELS IOWA

You're quite the agent - leveraging on a message board is innovative if not revolutionary!

It is not my ideal scenario, but if they sign Cousins, then I will be encouraged. At least they would acknowledging that the QB position is the most important to address. And, yes, it frees up the draft picks. Could load up a nasty front 7 on D.

How weird would be be to hear this? "Manziel... scrambling... makes a man miss... throws to the back of the endzone to Tasker for the touchdown!"

Put another way, how useful is it to stand in the middle of the world's biggest library if your head is up your @$$?

I personally see Rosen/Darnold/Mayfield as the Big 3, and the new chart says we can trade #21, #22 and Glenn to get up to #3 overall and ensure we get one. Totally worth it. Then you still have two 2nd round picks, the rest of the draft, and over $30 million in cap space to fill out WR/OG/DT/LB/CB.