SinceThe70s

You're assertion is exactly why OP posed the question. Is there a counter argument or examples that refute it? One that I can think of is Joe Torre, but that's a different sport. By and large he was a failure as a manager for the Mets, Braves and Cardinals, but became a genius as manager of the Yankees (and yes, the last part is sarcasm).

Wow, I misread it as Redhawks, eyes and brain saw what they expected. What's a Redblack? Nickname for Canadian Mounties?

Some time between June 17 and today I saw a segment where they asked George Brett what he'd have done if they over shifted him back in the day and he said he would have hit .400 every year. Not everyone has the bat control of a guy like Brett, but dropping a bunt down third doesn't seem like too much to ask. Or at least it shouldn't be.

After an Ottawa Redhawks TD, an offensive lineman ran to the stands, grabbed a can of beer from a fan (I think it was his GF), chugged it and best of all crushed it on his helmet. ESPN had a better clip, but I found this one: http://larrybrownsports.com/football/cfl-player-jon-gott-chugs-beer-touchdown/471395

This thread is overdue for the Black Crowes. One of my faves (the song, not the drug):

Always liked the orig. On a side note, and I don't remember the exact details, but when Sinead's video was popular, Roger Neilson (New York Rangers coach) was telling an interviewer something to the effect that he'd been watching the video and wanted to flick the tear off Sinead's face. Anyway, here's a different take on the same song:

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Um yeah, got that...assuming that's true (I have no reason to doubt otherwise), that's a better argument. If they hadn't been asking would you still have an issue with the original tweet?

The original seemed as simple as why are reporters bashing the QB handling without asking about the QB handling. Whatevs, doesn't change the mess we're in at QB.

Well now you're attacking the veracity of Wawrow's original claim. Different argument, curious why you didn't start there.

It's a fair point that his second tweet illustrates that he went past the intent of his original tweet that the press should ask questions about the handling of the QB situation if they were gonna bash it. But IMO the original intent was expecting the press to: "you know, just asking what happened to get the team to this point." instead of just bashing.

I have no idea how you came to the conclusion highlighted above. Wawrow's original criticism was of the press bashing the Bills mishandling the QB situation and barely (one question) challenging them on it. Why would the team defend the situation ("obvious bungling" or not) unless they were questioned?

Condolences. Dad was from Chicago, Mom from Boston, I'm born and bred Long Island. Dad's long gone, Mom's going strong. Dad was a Bears fan, but not in a big way and/or being a long distance fan wasn't viable back then. I was left on my own to find a team. Giants and Jets had no star power. Over the course of a few years my favorite team changed annually (Super Bowl winners/losers) until Dad took me aside and explained that you're not a fan unless you stick with one team through thick and thin, and you can't just be a front runner. I took this to heart. Still couldn't go with the Jets or Giants, Buffalo was a New York team (they all were at the time) and I absolutely loved OJ. A choice was made and despite the fact that the lean years far outweigh the good ones I have no regrets whatsoever and I have my Dad to thank for being a Bills fan and posting here today to express condolences to a dude that needs no advice.

I don't see contempt for Bills fans in OP's post. I also don't see any contempt OR support for the existing regime by OP. What I do see is contempt for the call to fire without a thought as to who to bring in and a request for more than the typical "Sue you? I'm suing everyone!" response (sorry - obscure Jerky Boys reference). Seems like a reasonable point of discussion that few have chosen to respond to.

For years the Ramones would open with this little ditty. Simple but effective.

For $100 amongst friends? Why dafuk not? It's not about the money, it's about the bragging rights. But you gotta give it some legs. Everyone should have to kick in $25 for every Super Bowl that nobody wins.

We're on the same page. My point was that I could be willing the plug on them mid-season next year if the historic ineptitude on offense persists. People question what the 'process' is, but maybe it's as simple as a systematic roster re-build: Rebuild the secondary (check mark...including losing EJ Gaines) Retool the LBers (Edmunds and Milano look like good additions) Fortify the DL Take a shot at a QB...and pray (regardless who you pick, trade or sign) Next up would be the offense, continued prayers sessions for the QB and re-filling all of the above due to free agency, retirement and attrition.

I'm all for the continuity argument and in particular the 3 year minimum. I thought the same about Rex after year one but by the end of year two it was obvious to me that it was time to move on and I'm glad we did so I don't see 3 year minimum as a hard and fast rule. I think the "fire everyone now" crew have some legit concerns/complaints, but breaking the drought, the play of the defense, my belief that the QB is still a complete unknown and where we're at wrt to draft picks and cap space is enough for me to give McBeane more time. If at this time next year the offense is as inept as it is right now, I would support pulling the plug mid-season and starting over, but that sets us back another 1-3 years and I hope it doesn't come to that.

"I wasn't looking too good but I was feeling real well":

@Gugny posted this in the baseball forum, but this deserves wider dissemination. FYI, 'Richie' is Rich Hill....or is it?

Did his Wikipedia page get updated today? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_McCarthy_(American_football) Michael John McCarthy (born November 10, 1963) is the most awful American football coach who unfortunately is the head coach of the Green Bay Packers of the National Football League (NFL).

No doubt. Could have been a different story if he didn't get buried on the Ravens depth chart.

From the great Waiting For Columbus: