SinceThe70s

My suggestion is to give your daughter the freedom to make her own choice. She'll be exposed to your fandom and it'll either take or it won't. If it takes, she's in for the ride good or bad - that's the gig, like it or not. And while you think you may be protecting her from a lifetime of heartbreak who knows maybe you'd be depriving her of a lifetime of joy.

Where I might disagree is that regardless of personnel, Van Noy's comment suggests he had come to expect a more aggressive offense. This assumes that the reflection of the HC implies a conservative approach.

TBH I thought Van Noy's comment was a feather in the coaching staff's cap in that we unexpectedly put the cuffs on Josh. I took Van Noy's comment as a positive for our staff. On the other side of the ball, what resonated with me this year was a Monday night ManningCast - must've been Jets/Rodgers - where Belichik was asked whether the Bills would blitz more after the Jets had problems with pressure the week before - and he said no, the Bills have been doing the same thing for years, relying on pressure from the front and won't change.

This comment reminded me that Van Noy said that he'd never seen the Bills play so conservatively the week before.

The bolded mirrors my thinking. I'm probably biased against closers whose careers over-lapped with Mariano Rivera - which admittedly is unfair. DH's are a different animal to me. Kind of like NFL special teamers, the bar is set much higher. Edgar Martinez and Big Papi were no doubters for me. Off the top of my head I can't think of anyone else. Off topic, but talk of DH's reminded me of one of the greatest injustices ever: Rafael Palmeiro winning the Gold Glove in 1999 when he played 28 games at first and 128 at DH. Priceless.

I think the NFL has no problem with the controversial plays. It's been going on since I've been watching and it's never affected the ratings or fan interest to my knowledge. The day it affects (or they think it affects) their bottom line is the day they start caring. The confusing/ambiguous rules are window dressing imo.

100% - and I'll avoid making a bad joke about depends. Cholula is a must-have for taco night. The question is which flavor. I like them all, but I'd put green pepper at the pinnacle.

To be clear is your answer to "Do these guys think they can win when they step on the field?" no?

Not that serious? Then why not just capitulate and admit that "Do these guys think they can win when they step on the field?" was indefensible when I called it out - or defend it if It's defensible? For the record, IMO where you started with the Dawkins/Jones glad-handing before the game was decided was a reasonable topic.

Your welcome? Your supposition that I called out was trash and you made no attempt to back it up - other than "How should I know?". Good for you.

I think your statement implied either or both.

Most of them and probably. Sorry I asked.

Flipping the question, do you think there are players on the Bills that stepped on the field expecting to lose? If so, which ones (or group) and why do you think they felt that way?

Global warming or an epic fail by Microsoft?

I was born early 60's and still waiting, but I'm also an out-of-towner so def not the same experience as locals. Might sound like a broken record (remember those?) but I was thrilled when my sons took to the Bills - I never pushed it on them. We witnessed the drought-breaking TD by Boyd together and went nuts together. When we drafted Josh they were high school and middle school and asked me if he'd be any good. I told them I had no idea but we got one of the four so I was happy. When 13 seconds happened we were crushed and I told them that was their official indoctrination to Bills fandom. In the meantime their Mom felt left out and now is fully in with us. It sucks that we haven't made it to the top yet, they're all feeling the strain more and more each year especially wifey! No regrets that I chose to be a Bills fan and happy as hell that my fam adopted them as well. Despite another disappointing end to the season I'm looking forward to next year! Go Bills!

Ya know what's aggravating as hell? In 2020 the NFL added a wild card team and eliminated the bye for the #2 seed. We've been the #2 seed in 4/5 seasons since.

Disagree. The difference between the Bills and Chiefs in the playoffs has been guys like Chris Jones and Karlaftis - guys who get after the passer. Mahomes didn't lose a beat after Tyreek Hill left. Kelce and D-Hop were not difference makers tonight. Juju put up numbers - and is usually mocked around here. Hollins had nearly as many yards as the almighty Xavier Worthy. The Bills took a big swing with Von a few years ago and it didn't produce the expected results, but that's the type of impact player(s) we need.

Second year in a row a Bills receiver didn't come down with a catchable ball in a critical situation against the Chiefs in the playoffs. IMO the throw was more difficult than the catch. Then again we saw Andrews miss a catchable ball last week. Sh!t happens.

This is gold Jerry, GOLD!!!

Are you proposing the trade route or outright cut?

I'll go you one better. I would have signed up for that at half time when the only KC drive that didn't end with a TD was due to their botched RPO/handoff - just outside of the red zone.

Including 17?

The well-coached (and more talented) playoff teams knew that was our trend and adjusted. We didn't counter - except for Josh's dive over the top.

I'm all for doing the same thing over and over and over until the other team stops it. From what I saw, the Ravens started to make it look less than automatic and for sure tonight KC did. In the regular season Josh would make it a yard or more past the mark. Last week and tonight it wasn't the gimme it was regular season and actually got stopped.

I don't disagree, but where I was going was maybe they could have a short yardage play that isn't always "Josh go get it".