SinceThe70s

https://longisland.news12.com/prosecutors-brawl-on-sunrise-highway-in-north-lindenhurst-was-dispute-between-relatives A few more details but this may be behind a pay wall: https://www.newsday.com/long-island/crime/sunrise-crash-bats-sticks-assault-closed-brawl-f9623hu7

I watched that broadcast and didn't care for it. There's a reason they didn't repeat the experiment. I suppose it could be better these days with large screen TV's and home theater systems.

Yeah, I get it too. It's our choice whether to plunk down the $5.99 for the game on Saturday. I live in Jets/Giants territory too and my choice during the drought was to not see the games - because I wasn't going to a bar at 1 PM on a Sunday and I wasn't going to pay for the Sunday ticket. Looking back it probably saved me a lot of misery, lol. I'm just getting fatigued having to figure out if I have access to a game and on which service. And it's not just football. Last night I was expecting to watch the Islanders until I hunted around and found that I didn't have access. I've also watched some pretty crappy broadcasts - last year the video quality on Amazon was pretty bad and the Apple TV baseball broadcasts teams have been God awful.

Inspired by Wojo I'll add Dietrich and Inspector Luger and Yemana and Harris and Fish....

I'd argue that predictability is an illusion in the NFL - and something that the most ardent/knowledgeable fans are oblivious to. It's why it's so compelling imo.

In fairness we also caught a break on the non-call at the end of the Giants game. We're at where we are at, regardless how we got here it's water under the bridge. Still need some help but I'm looking forward to Saturday.

A lot of folks are crapping on OP - and while I get that the particulars for OP are sketchy I'm sympatico to the over-arching point. Does anyone who isn't watching their favorite team on an illegal stream actually support the current trend? If so, why?

I can honestly say I never watched an episode of The Nanny but I couldn't stand Fran Drescher from whatever previews/commercials I saw. I also couldn't stand Joe Mantegna in Criminal Minds - or anything else I ever saw him in.

I'd argue that competence in coaching is an expectation not a 'nice to have'.

This is exactly why I think giving possession to the defense at the spot of the fumble when it's out of the end zone makes the most sense. It preserves the field position advantage for the offense. I think the fundamental difference of opinion on this is how folks view "out of bounds" vs. "out of the end zone". IMO they are fundamentally different and should be treated that way. Others see them as fundamentally the same.

If they change the rule I hope they just give possession to the defense at the spot of the fumble instead of making it a touchback.

The best part of this story - whether it's true or not - is that I don't care. I'd have no problem if they kept him around. Either way it doesn't move the needle for me. Not like when Brady left NE (which was great) or retired (which was better).

I completely - and respectably disagree. Far too many times we have 5 minute slo-mo replays to 'figure it out' and the announcers, the highly respected former official, the viewing audience and the guy who actually makes the decision all have a differing opinion. It's an exercise in futility. Get the egregiously bad calls right and live with the rest - we're stuck with living with the rest either way.

WRT the bolded, another point of view is that if the players respond immediately it gives legs to the report. If they think it's utter BS responding just keeps the story public and maybe the reporter gets more pub. It's kind of like trolls on this (or any other) site. Some folks are just looking for attention for personal gain or attention. Ignore them and it goes away quickly. I think the Bills played this perfectly. FYI: all of the above doesn't make me question whether Sean should be the coach past this year

This deserves more than just an awesome. I guess I'm on a crusade cuz I just made this comment in another thread - the most sensible solution I've ever heard is to eliminate slo-mo from replay reviews - if it isn't obvious in a real time replay let it stand. It'll never happen, but that's the best solution I've ever heard.

I couldn't agree more with the bolded. Watching the game with my son we had a few instances were we disagreed on which way the call would/should go. It detracts from the product imo. Best suggestion I ever heard (from a poster on this board) was that instant replay reviews should only be done with real-time replays, no slo-mo. Unfortunately it'll never happen.

IMO this is a shining example of how instant replay has made the game worse. If we go the Zapruder route on every single play, I have no doubt we'll find something to complain about on a large number of plays. Replay is a necessary evil but the slo-mo replays do more harm than good.

Everyone has a big but. Let's talk about your big but. Disclaimer: the statement above is a movie quote and should not be construed as a negative statement about the intent of this thread or OP.

Thanks - but my son subsequently showed me the press conference and he was upset that Toney was called Offside on the throwback play. Just speculating, but maybe some lingering p!ssiness from the non-call at the end of the Packers game. Definitely not a look I've seen from Mahomes. The fact that he was that p!ssed after the game makes me wonder if it affected him on the three plays that followed the penalty.

Maybe the wrong thread but can you imagine the headlines and on-going narrative if that play had stood given the timing of Wycheck's untimely death.

What was Mahomes p!ssed about?

I was just about to comment that I live fairly close to NYC and I don't think this story has the traction around here that folks think it has. I heard a local sports talk guy yesterday bemoan that he was surprised the story already went away a day after it broke.

If the stipulation is that we've never heard of an act of kindness like this occurring on another team I'd counter with my doubt that fans of other NFL teams have any awareness that it happened with the Bills. From my corner of the earth the only part of the article that had any legs is the 9/11 reference - and even that appears to be in the rear view mirror already.

Did you mean extemporaneous?

Awesome. Would be a great addition to my youngest son's 'man cave'. But he's off to college next year so hope you find someone younger.