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Not ridiculous at all Doc. It is an honest question. Players are still going to have to block in this situation where they find themselves peeling back towards their goaline. So how do they do that? Why wouldn't throwing a chest block or hand block work? It appears legal under the rules and won't be as forceful as launching your head, shoulder or forearm. Receivers use two hands two block all the time off the line of scrimmage. Why wouldn't they use two hands two block in this situation? Do you have a better blocking alternative?

What do you coach your players to do now? Sort of just run into the player with your chest? Extend two hands out?

I agree. I'm confident Newton would fit the majority of those definitions too.

He does indeed. In fact, a strong argument can be made that he's better than all of them as a runner. A little while back, I looked at the greatest six game rushing streaks by QB's. I think I only looked at Vick, RGIII and Newton assuming those three guys would be the obvious front runners. Allen' s six game span to end the season blew away any six game streak RGIII and Cam had. Meanwhile, VIck had only one six game streak that could have an argument for or against it being as good or better than Allen's. I think Vick had more yards but slightly lower ypc and much fewer TD's. But it would be unfair to anoint him that just yet with such a small sample size. And the fun thing about Allen, he's a guy that still wants to play the game like Brett Favre. He wants to be a gunslinger. I wouldn't say the same thing about Vick, RGIII and Cam. Combine the gunslinger mentality with his crazy athleticism and you potentially have a very special QB. One we haven't seen before which will make it hard to judge him by traditional statistic's. You can't just say, well his stats need to improve to XYZ for him to be good.

To the point of Cam Newton. He absolutely is a franchise QB. You can be inconsistent and fail to live up to your full expectations and still be a franchise QB. Perhaps that is the category that Cam fits into. I understand there is not a rock solid definition of a franchise QB, but I have a hard time seeing how Cam would not fit most or nearly all definitions of one. The fact that he has been the starting QB for the same team for 8 consecutive seasons is in itself the most simplistic measure that tells us he is a franchise QB. Regardless of how he has played. Throw in an MVP season, playoff success, regular season success. The guy is without a doubt a franchise QB. Inconsistent? Yes. Playoffs in three out of his eight seasons tells us that. Not ideal, but also not terrible considering the Super Bowl run and the fact that he's played in a division with two other super bowl contending teams in Atlanta and New Orleans over those eight seasons. This is not a case of the Colts under Manning beating up on poor AFC South teams or the Patriots beating up on poor AFC East teams over the last 18 years. We can debate if Cam's run as a franchise QB is coming to an end. That is a fair discussion. Flacco was a franchise guy at one point too and is obviously not anymore. Some QB's stay at that level longer than other. Some ridiculously long like Brady. But based on his last season, I certainly would not right Cam off yet. We can also debate if his use as a runner will lead to a shorter peak as a franchise QB. Probably, not much of a debate. It likely will. And Allen may be on the same trajectory. We did see Newton put up some of his best passing numbers of his career in his eighth season though so perhaps his game is evolving in a good way as he ages. The same could happen for Allen down the road. I am also not a fan of Cam's attitude, leadership, and perhaps work ethic and film study. But, IMO, Allen does not share those traits with Newton. Because Allen on the surface appears to be a better leader and have a better work ethic I think he has a chance to be even better than Newton. They certainly share similar physical traits and athletic ability.

Cam Newton?

What did Benjamin do when he went to the Cheifs and got to play with the league MVP? Tell me again how he is not washed up. I don't care what he did in 2013-2014. What did he do last year? Or even the year before?

A mix of Cam Newton and Brett Favre really is a good comparison.

First off, Wentz not having Allen's mobility and athletic ability is a negative for Wentz. Not Allen. Not sure why you bring it up. Allen's sack % improved greatly over his final six games. But I guess that is because he played Miami twice in your opinion and we should expect him to have a sack% over 6% again next year? Allen improved as his rookie season went on. Wentz regressed from him first four games. That's a fact.

So just because Ertz is a TE that disqualifies him as a receiver? I guess all those TD's Brady threw to Gronk don't count? Your logic is ridiculous here.

I agree. Allen's best comparison is Cam Newton. With the exception of last year, his 8th season in the NFL, Cam is a low completion percentage QB. And obviously, they are both significant run threats. Wentz and Allen have nearly identical physical measurable's but that is where it ends. Despite the nearly identical physical measurable's Allen is clearly far more gifted athletically than Wentz.

This is what I was thinking as well. Teams and GM's in general do not value TE's, Guards and RB's in the 1st round like they do CB's, OT, WR's and DE's. By that fact alone, we can conclude that drafting a TE in the first round would be overvaluing the position just based on the traditional line of thinking of GM's. But of course that is not to say an elite TE is not worth the pick in the first round if there happens to be one. Hindsight is 20/20 but we should have seen the Manuel bust coming. I can't think of another time in NFL draft history that a team traded BACK too get their franchise QB. That definitely should have been a warning sign.

Yeah the game has evolved. I do think it is likely modern day players have increased their accuracy over other generations but i also think play scheming and rule changes have probably had a larger effect on the higher completion percentages we see today. The big takeaway is where a player ranks among his peers. Kelly was top 10 for his era. Allen was dead last in his first season and might remain in the bottom third of NFL quarter backs for most of his career as Cam has up till last year when he surprisingly cracked the top 10 in completion percentage.

Problem is, i don't know this for a fact, but I am pretty sure 59-60% completion in the mid to late 80's was probably average for an NFL QB. 58-59% is below average for NFL quarterbacks today. Especially ones considered to be franchise QB's. That is why I think Cam Newton is the best comp. Edit: Check out the link. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1986/passing.htm In the 1986 season, a 59.4% completion percentage by Jim Kelly was good enough to make him the 7th most accurate passer that year. In 2018 that percentage would have had him fourth from last only ahead of the rookies Allen, Rosen and Darnold. Some dude named Eric Hipple lead the league in '86 at 63.0%. That would have ranked 25th in 2018.

Yep. With that athletic ability, and if he can avoid the sacks and turnovers like he did in his final six games and take advantage of speed guys like Foster it is possible 58% completion will be good enough to make him a franchise QB.

i thought he was still trending towards bust until he came from his injury. But his improvement when he came back was remarkable. The game slowed down for him. He wasn't taking sacks left and right like he was before the injury. He realized how gifted he was athletically. And he cut down on the turnovers. Add in personnel improvements across the board on offense and a full season with Robert Foster and you can definitely project improvement in year two.

My take has always been that Allen will end up averaging around 58-59% completion most seasons. And that will be just fine. While that number is far lower than your typical QB in today's game, Allen does offer a lot of other traits that your typical QB does not. Some years 58-59% completion might not be enough to get us to the playoffs. Other years, 58-59% completion could put him in the MVP race. There really isn't a better comp for Allen right now than Cam Newton.

And if anything I would have to give Allen the slight edge of Darnold given that Allen improved significantly from his first six games to his last six games after injury. If we project Allen to play more similarly to his last six games he will be much improved over all next season. Darnold was more evenly up and down from start to finish.

This could be it too. Not everyone player likes the hustle and bustle of the big cities. Lineman typically like to keep a low profile and if money is similar than a place like Buffalo it perfect. And the winter weather in Buffalo and New York City is comparable so that is not a big deal breaker either.

I really like Fitz. I can route for him on the Dolphins. But I couldn't route for him on the Jets. The Jet's are the team in our division I despise the most. Even more than the Cheaters. Beating Fitz and the Jets twice in Rex's first year, including knocking them out of the playoffs, was almost worth the Rex signing alone but not quite. And the following year was just stupid.

It was a joke. But he does fall under the overrated category for me. That is overrated only when people talk about him as a future HOFer. And not that posters here have specifically referred to him as such here but you do here it in the media from some. Shave off the golden lock's and put up the same numbers on our Bills or any other team that is not the Cowboys, Steelers, Patriots, or any other media darling and I don't think he ever seriously enters the conversation. Great player for a couple season's back in the day and nice career? Yes. HOFer? Not for me, unless he can finish his career with a couple more 10+ sack seasons.

Just make the appointment. USC.

Perhaps. I don't remember Hunt's exact denial of the truth, but didn't he deny anything happening at all at the hotel? Hunt would have been much better off telling the complete truth in his case since the incident was as mild as it gets in terms of an assault on a person. If Hill has a good attorney he could confess that somethings happened but that he didn't break the kids arm. Or at least not intentionally. Also, there might not be a security camera in Hill's case.

If I recall correctly though now, part of the narrative from the Chiefs as to why they released Hunt was that he lied to the Chiefs about the incident in the hotel room. So I guess technically, the Chiefs could say they released Hunt because he lied to them, not because of the assault. Of course that wouldn't exactly be a good look for the Chiefs either. Caring more about a players words and lies over the players physical actions.

Hunt was never charged with anything. He still ended up released by the Chiefs and now serving an 8 game suspension. And judging by the video we all saw I'm not sure Hunt even caused anyone to bruise. Hill on the other hand may have broken his kids arm. But WR is not any easily replaceable position so I would expect the Cheifs to do their best to spin this differently than the Hunt case.