GunnerBill

My problem with him is the thing I have the question about is the thing he didn't prove. There is a stiffness to his game. He doesn't play with the fluidity I'd want in a high end safety. Doesn't flip his hips. The testing I'd have been interested in is the agility drills. I think there is a fair chance he is gone before we pick and if he isn't I'd be content to leave alone at 30.

Probably Scourton based purely on positional value. They are equal grades on my board right now.

Yea I've been a Harmon guy too. I wonder if his testing pushes him a bit out of our range.

Stood out at the Shrine Bowl too. If they find a serviceable starter in FA which allows them to wait until round 4 on a corner he'd be very interesting IMO.

He will get more than that I think. I don't hate the idea of Stokes. He is certainly a guy that means you are not required to force it in the draft.

I could totally see Campbell taking him. Actually think he is a nice fit for the way that D has played as a bigger base end opposite Hutchinson as well. DC change allowing obvs.

Yep. The fact he dropped his weight back down to his Purdue numbers suggests he was playing heavy at A&M's request in 2024. I think if he were there at #30 I'd have a real hard time passing.

In fairness Brees was rarely separated by a great cast of separators at receiver either. Now the likes of Graham, Colston and Thomas were all excellent at their positions - no question about that - but they are all bigger guys who won at the catch point rather than being separators.

I think the Bills will be interested in Stokes in FA if he doesn't sign. They liked him in that 2021 draft. I am less persuaded. 2024 was his best year but he still had plenty of ups and downs and gave up a 97 passer rating when targeted.

There are reasons, sure. His injuries are a risk but he also does not have entirely great relationships within the organisation. Lots of rumours about friction with the coach. I think he can still play. Is he a risk? Yes. But in terms of realistic and cost effective ways for the Bills to add vet players with elite talent this one makes more sense than most.

The struggles Dorian as are shoulders up. There were signs of improvement in 2024. The Jags game week 3 was a real high water mark. But there is still way too much inconsistency in his play, way too many mental mistakes.

Agree on Jackson. I struggle with his fit. Not bendy or fluid enough to be a pass rushing edge, not consistent enough leverage to be 3-4 end. I ended up seeing him more as a 4-3 bigger, base end. But honestly it is going to need a creative staff with him to find his niche. Talented. Just don't know how you use him. On Stewart.... he is super talented. I expected freakish testing and freakish testing is what we got. Think he probably moved up into the top 20 of the draft because if you can teach him some technique he is going to be a monster.

Yea that was a disappointing run. He looked a bit gangly like the long levers almost slow him down. The rest of his testing was decent, so I would want to see him run again at his pro day but was definitely a sub par outing.

I really, really, hope not. That would be almost as disappointing a pick to me as Keon Coleman last year. Don't like his get off. Zero bull rush. Can't play the run (not just because of his size but because he loses contain frequently). He is bendy. I give him that. And I do like his hands. But I do not see a first round football player there at all. There are no Western Kentuckys on the NFL schedule. I think his ceiling is a situational pass rusher at the next level. That has value. Not first round value. If he made it to our second round pick (he won't) and we wanted to take a shot? Sure. I'd be fine with that. But he is a reach at #30. Brugler has loved him all along the road. I think he is wrong.

I like him as a mid round DT option. He will go top 25. Stud.

Disqualifying any list that includes Tyrod. Slight technicality but Quarterbacks do have to throw the football.

Not at its best it wasn't.

Strong, strong, strong disagree.

Tremaine never made any tackles. Your feeling in this instance is correct.

Beane said in his presser his calculation is we are down to only about $4m over, but there is more work to do.

For you to believe that you also have to believe that he has been dogging it a bit at times because his team is bad IMO. Because while his numbers are definitely hurt by his QB play there were times this season when he was lazy, didn't run his route with enough urgency to be in the right spot and dropped balls he should have caught if there was any contact at all from defenders. But he unquestionably is right to ask for top 5 money. Super talented.

If you are giving longevity points, sure. But Mario's first 3 years in Buffalo were better than Schobel's best three years. If the question is who was the best rusher at their peak after Bruce, it's Mario Williams. Peak Mario was the best Bills player of the drought era (talking pure drought so excluding those who played on the last playoff team pre-drought and then into the drought).

He is arguably top 5 talent wise. The production doesn't yet match, but that's the market. If you are a top 10 guy you want top 5 money when your time comes because you will slide down quickly after as others do their deals.

Mario. Not close.

He counts as $17m on the cap in 2025 and $18m in 2026 but not a penny of that is guaranteed so from a leverage position in negotiations the team has it all really. The deal to be done in my view is "we will rework the deal give you the $35m you currently have unguaranteed over the next two years but guarantee most of it, pay you $20-25m up front and spread the cap hit for us over 4 years with two of them void and you still hit FA again age 30 with a chance to get one more decent payday." No negotiation in the NFL is ever "easy" but this one is way closer to the easy end than most.