GunnerBill

I didn't know you were targeting Thomas when I offered the trade but it did cross my mind that you might have been. It was obvious he was going to win the Bills poll. If Thomas had been there you'd have taken him, right?

The Bengals don't have the money to keep this team together and do the money up front can kick exercise that sustaining a good team takes. Burrow will force his way out of there before there is any question of Allen leaving here IMO.

Yea if they took him in round 4 I'd think a bit early for my tastes but Id understand. Taking him in rounds 1 to 3 with his skillset is mad IMO.

That's the guy!

They are in a no lose position because they trade back or they get Marvin Harrison (or possibly Nabers as some think they prefer him). If I were them I wouldn't do the Giants trade down. I'm only interested in getting a major haul to give up Harrison. But they may well decide otherwise. I also don't think Mitchell gets to #20 either. But half a chance Arnold might and I'd have been interested in him there too. Was more just an example of how you have to play the draft as it goes not as you think it will go. Because there are always surprises.

Where did you see that?

I bet they are still tipping picks in the draft thread. Flippin' Aussies.

Yea he is a freak.

I don't know what you lot can't be happy with one bloody time!

I think it's 8 tomorrow......

With the 20th pick in the 2024 TSW Mock Draft version 3.0, brought to you in association with @Virgil Sports and Media Enterprises, the Arizona Cardinals select: Quinyon Mitchell, Cornerback, Toledo I didn't necessarily plan to trade up here but watching the board as all those offensive tackles, quarterbacks, wide receivers and defensive linemen went it became very apparent to me that the value on the board was at corner - where it just so happens the Cardinals have a huge hole. They signed Sean Murphy-Bunting in free agency who is just about serviceable to play one side, but Starling Thomas V, a former UDFA out of UAB is the presumptive starter at the other spot. They need an upgrade. Mitchell is the top corner on my board and has the potential to develop into an elite corner in the NFL with his size, speed and competitiveness. Trading up 7 spots for him while swapping one of my three thirds for a fourth was a no-brainer. I think what is most interesting about this scenario is @Alphadawg7 did the Cardinals in v2.0, traded back at both picks and ended up with Odunze and Wiggins. I've stood pat at #4 and traded up and snagged Harrison and Mitchell. Both scenarios I think would make Arizona better immediately. Proof that there are multiple ways to play it and you have to let the way the board falls drive your decision making over and above getting fixated on players or positions. The aforementioned @Alphadawg7 and the Miami Dolphins are now on the clock.

My kitchen is being done up at the moment so I'll be sitting in a dusty lounge full of stuff that should normally be in a kitchen trying to make enough coffee to stay awake, eating food that doesn't require cooking and playing a full part in the draft thread on here while marking off my board as we go. I am more of a two laptops guy than a two tv screens guy.

Yea OL more generally is even more a lock. I suppose some of the guys could be classified in other spots.... but my guess is: Alt, Fashanu, Fuaga, Latham, Mims, Guyton, Morgan all go and are called tackles. Then I think Fautanu will be called a tackle, he will definitely go. And possibly Barton who might go and might be called a tackle.

It's not true. It was 2003, you are right about that, but it is a common misconception that it was Sehorn. It was someone who played for either the Benglas or the Browns. Forget which.

More OTs will go than WRs on Thursday. That is an absolute lock IMO.

The non-WR version.

He's already had that experience. The puma loved it.

I volunteer to inject Worthy with sperm. Oh... puma sperm you say? Meh.

If they trade up to #19 only Thomas makes sense to me. Because the rest are likely available at #28 or with a very small trade up.

When you have Josh Allen at Quarterback I think one may well lead to the other. I'm not saying the Bills have to trade into the top 10. I was responding to the idea that a first round receiver pick wouldn't necessarily be the #1. I think it is very likely someone they take at #28 would be the #1 receiver in 2024. It is almost a guarantee someone they traded into the top 10 for would be the #1 on this team in 2024.

Indeed even the much lamented Sammy Watkins came in and WAS our number 1 immediately. That that is a trade that was seen to have failed for obvious reasons. But in 2014 he stepped onto the field as our #1 in week 1 and had 900+ yards. He had 1,000 yards and 9 touchdowns his second year. The reasons it fell apart after that are well documented and the Bills definitely drafted the wrong guy from that receiver class. But even then that guy gave their passing game an immediate and significant boost.

He is not the best route runner in the draft. If the argument was he is the best route runner outside the top 3.... I could buy that. Of that next group: Thomas, Legette, Mitchell, McConkey and Worthy - which it does seem is increasingly seen as the consensus next cluster - Ladd is the best route runner in terms of precision route running.

Yea but that is just another of your strange foibles.

There are two first team all pros - Lamb and Jefferson. But Aiyuk has been a second team all pro as has Calvin Ridley. Then you have Cooks and Moore who have been #1s at points of their careers - although probably lower end #1s. That is 6 good players. All of those at their best would be by far and away the best receiver on the Bills in 2024.

I agree, he is. Which is why I wouldn't go for him as a backup. But if you are the Broncos in a take a punt on anything mode I see why the possibility that it was a Jets problem is worth a 7th round pick.