GunnerBill

If they got Troy on day 3 I'd be fine with that. What I don't want them to do is leave superior options on the table days 1 and 2 because they are reaching to fill holes. If the top receivers in each round are gone before they pick, fine, don't force it. But equally don't force corner or defensive line either. BPA at WR - CB - DE round 1, then the same with the first second rounder. Then at that point before their second second rounder take stock, look at the positions you have managed to address and consider the depth of what is remaining at DT and whichever one of the three premium spots you haven't addressed. My suspicion based on the class is DT will be the deepest remaining spot.... but equally if there is a DT with a round 2 grade there at #62 don't pass on him for a 3rd round grade at another spot.

Albert Breer I think is the only national reporter who has alluded to it. But there are lots of rumours behind the scenes and it was John Mara who the day after the playoff exit the first year with Daboll, with Jones and impending free agent declared to the media "we have our franchise Quarterback" and then on the day the deal was signed he was the one ringing Jones's camp directly. I am not arguing that he was overruling Schoen and Daboll who were desperate not to sign him. But I think this was more than just an owner saying "I support bringing Daniel back" I think he was actively campaigning in the organisation for it. Their relationship has been described as father - son like.

Nah I believe he was actively pushing them to do it.

Yea I think the Giants have been worse. I know the Jets have the longest playoff drought but they didn't draft a running back number 2 in a strong Quarterback draft only to then come back in a weak QB draft the next year and take a 3rd round talent 6th overall. The Jets results might have been worse (although total W-L is close I think) and the Browns (Watson) have made the single worst decision but nobody has consistently screwed the process as bad as the Giants over the past decade.

Yea. I think Cook does make a difference over Motor and Moss because they are both backup level running backs. We thought for a couple of years backup + backup = starter. If you were comparing it to say Najee Harris or someone like that it makes minimal difference. Agree totally with this. Don't count myself in that. I was a defender of the DeJean idea last year. While my preference was a receiver I thought DeJean was a stud and he was my 2nd BPA going into day 2.

This was after the cap increase had been communicated. There was still a gap between Spotrac and Beane on how far over the Bills were.

Yes, but they have been the worst run franchise in the league since about 2014.

I mean technically they did. But it was at the owner's instruction. I don't think they are drafting a QB at #3 now. They have signed Jameis and Russ. Would be odd to sign two bottom end starting level vets if you plan to draft a guy. That normally signals a "we are gonna let these guys compete".

Imagine being a Giants fan from the moment they forced out Coughlin. It has been a total ***** show. Ben McAdoo, Pat Shurmer, Joe Judge, Brian Daboll. Gettlemen and Schoen. But ownership deserves a TON of blame too. They are a disastrous mess of a franchise.

Yea we know Spotrac and Beane were $6m apart at the Combine. Spotrac at that stage was projecting the Bills $10m over the cap and Beane was asked about it in his presser and said "right now we are about $4m". You can speculate why that difference was, but I think it is fair to say they were working on slightly different assumptions.

I wouldn't say third most talented. Diggs was still plenty talented. Third most explosive, sure. He was, last season, a guy who you say "I'm fine him having 8 catches because they will be for 10 yards a pop and not hurt me" whereas go back 3 years if Diggs had 8 catches he probably had 150 yards and 2 touchdowns and had wrecked your gameplan. Whether he is still the guy he even was in Houston is the question on the back of the ACL. And you are right to say it is different being a productive slot when you have explosive guys outside compared to when you have nothing outside and teams can key in on you.

You are still looking at version 1. But I disagree on Ezeiruaku having elite upside. I don't see much ceiling there. To me he is already kinda close to his maximum. High floor, kinda low ceiling. However, in version 2 you will see he doesn't even make it to the Bills' first round pick. Equally, if I was doing a second round now I wouldn't take JTT there either.

He was still a pretty productive slot receiver last year in Houston pre-injury. I don't think he was finished. He could still separate laterally he just couldn't separate vertically anymore. Whether you pay a 31 year old receiver who had lost his fastball and basically become a slot even before his ACL $23m AAV for three years....? Yea only if you are a bad team with more money than sense. My guess is Stef will do okay for them. 600 to 750 yards and 4 or 5 touchdowns. But he won't perform up to that contract.

They were certainly at a talent disadvantage vs the Eagles but they were thorougly and utterly outcoached too. On both sides of the ball. Reid was awful. It was like in the first half he was trying to call plays that played straight into what the Eagles were doing. There was some adjustment second half but it was too late. I agree that if they were going to win that Superbowl they had to win the coaching battle to overcome the superior talent. They lost it resoundingly.

For sure familiarity plays a part in the Bills - Chiefs matchups. The Bills caught them on the hop in the regular season with all the man coverage but when they tried it again in the playoffs Mahomes and Reid were prepared and shredded it. But man.... watching the Superbowl the Chiefs had no answers coaching wise. It was like they defeated us and then spent two weeks with their feet up.

But it is flat our bizarre that they ran plays against the Bills in the AFCCG that they hadn't run all season long. Five of them on offense including the one that finally iced the game. Maybe they did on D as well I don't know I only have the number for their O. And then when they couldn't move the ball basically at all for a half they ran zero new plays against the Eagles in the Superbowl. I am not claiming conspriacy or anything but far from playing the Chiefs being the Bills Superbowl it actually feels the other way around. The Chiefs put more effort into beating us than they did into trying to win a third consecutive Lombardi. They definitely outcoached us in the AFCCG (although they out executed us too). Probably their biggest coaching win vs us in the playoffs since the first AFCCG. But it was like they threw everything at the Bills and had nothing left for Philly.

That in itself is a worry. Because Johnston is awful.

Agree with this. Palmer is a way better option than Cooks or Hollins at this stage. As I said I'd have been in on Brown, but I acknowledge he is riskier and the Bills were looking for a legit floor because they have nothing else at the spot. They got themselves here when they wouldn't go up a few extra picks for Jordan Addison or Brian Thomas or when they passed on the likes of Christian Watson for Kaiir Elam (I know Watson has been a walking injury but who knows if that happens here, he has been productive when on the field).

That is a very good point......

Yea, agreed, it is. I actually would have been partial to a flier on Dyami. I loved him coming out and I do think opportunity was part of the problem. Washington never really seemed to trust him. No doubt they had their reasons for that, but he really did pop at the end of last year. Maybe a fluke? Definitely possible. But if it wasn't and the light has just finally gone on he is better than any of the other FA WRs. I'm fine with Palmer. It is what it is. The market is horrible and he is at least a legit outside receiver in the NFL even if he kinda feels like the baseline of what the Bills need is rather than anything more.

I am not sure corner is that deep personally. I think you have Hunter, Barron and Johnson in the first tier (plus Revel on the fringe but with major medical red flags). Then you have Amos, Hariston, Morrison (major injury red flags), Thomas in the second tier, plus Porter who is kinda of tier 2 and a half. After those 9 guys there are not a ton of guys I'd feel confident in saying would come in and beat out a vet like Dane Jackson who knows the system as rookies. Are there some guys who can and will improve past Dane with some development and time on task? Sure. But if the Bills best available at a premium position in round 1 isn't a corner then IMO they should try and move up in round two to get one of those guys (or find another still unsigned vet on the market). Otherwise more likely than not Dane Jackson will start the season opposite Christian Benford.

It is sort of the market though. Gabe got $24m guaranteed from the Jags last year and they are similar tier of player IMO. They are guys that are low end #2s outside who you'd ideally love to have as your 3rd outside receiver in the rotation. As to why the Bills are having to fish in that market for a semi-proven outside receiver..... the answer lies in their under investment in the position at draft time between Diggs trade and Keon selection and then question marks about whether Keon is really a true outside, vertical threat guy.

Fair enough. I don't necessarily think you are wrong on the athleticism bit. But I do think it is a significant problem for him creating separation on boundary routes and it limits his ceiling IMO. Using the basketball skills in the redzone - absolutely - but elsewhere that same technique is hurting him.

My biggest problem with them.... well let me be more specific, with Erik, is that he is incredibly thin skinned to legitimate disagreement. It's like their narrative is the only narrative.

Ahhhhh now Erik's video last week defending Groot's dreadful performance in the AFCCG makes a lot more sense...... Shills gotta shill.