GunnerBill

Thats the fella Felton. I was done with Rex after Wembley and Jags in 2015. Everyone remembers that game for EJ's first half meltdown and Darby's late mystery PI penalty on 4th down, but it was a horribly coached game from start to finish. I could tell he had mailed it in.

Yep that was 2016. The full back came from the Vikings. His name escapes me. He was Pat DiMarco before Pat DiMarco. Then after week 1 we cut baby Gronk and signed the ex-Viking back.

Ha. Yep. Although increasingly they are less powerful than the big media companies. I won't share the full story here but I have personal experience of even when elected representatives think a regulatory measure on a media or social media giant is a good idea they can easily be frightened out of it by the power that they weild now. It's a long term concern for democracy.... but going further down that rabbit hole is definitely for PPP!

So I generally agree. As I said at the start I only ever illegally stream stuff that I cannot access legitimately - which is mainly college football where access to games in the UK is patchy. If there were a college football equivalent of NFL gamepass international I would subscribe without hesitation. I agree that when some don't pay those that do are essentially subsidising. But I have to say sports broadcasting deals are not a great example of the market operating according to proper market principles. The NFL isn't nor is the Premier League here in the UK. They are very good examples of profiteering. Given free reign I'd regulate the hell out of them and fix the problem. I certainly don't think a two tier solution of those that pay and those that steal is the answer but I do have some sympathy with those who say "sod the billionaires they are just greedy." It's true. They are.

That was a good one. The day after news had broken of the Pegula takeover as well I believe. I also liked 2019. @Jets. Coming off 2018 rookie years Allen v Darnold. Darnold was the big favourite but Allen came out throwing only for Beasley to give them an pick 6 off his hands and we were down 16-3 going into the 4th. Josh led two 80 yard 4th Quarter drives to bring us back with the long winning touchdown pass down the left touchline to John Brown. Was the first day for me personally I thought "we have ourselves a quarterback."

Was Allen's rookie year wasn't it? We played them like twice in three years on the road in openers. 2016 with Rex and Tyrod. 2018 with Sean and Peterpick/Josh.

They are old and beaten up too. They have no receivers. I think it's going to be a tough year for them, even though I know the schedule sets up well for them.

I fancy a few underdogs actually: Falcons over Buccs Browns over Bengals Dolphins over Colts Seahawks over 49ers Bears over Vikings Think they are all still underdogs.... I actually have a gut feeling about the Jets too but can't bring myself to pick that. The pick 'em site on Yahoo as the Ravens as faves. In which case I've picked the Bills as a 'dog too.

I think both supports your view that it will take longer and mine that their intention is not for him to just sit on the PS long term. They have brought him here to eventually have on the field. But I think you are right we are looking second half of the season.

Thanks. I didn't realise they hadn't moved that deadline when they moved up the final cutdowns date. Yea likely it was done yesterday then.

I only illegally stream what I have no legal way to access. I can get the NFL legally, so I don't stream it. I can't get all college games legally. DAZN (same people who now do international gamepass) have won the college rights for this year but are only showing certain games. So I illegally streamed Ohio State - Texas as it was my only option. Then I watched Florida State - Bama on DAZN because I had the option to see legally.

I think he can be a starter outside. Not a star, but a starter. What he can't be is your #2 option. If Gabe is starting outside for you opposite a #1 type then your #2 receiving option better be your slot receiver or your tight end.

I think they might have done this last week to be under the cap at cutdowns and it has only been announced now. Because my maths had then over the cap.

Too unproductive to be an unquestioned starter outside, sure. I said that when the Bills made him an unquestioned starter outside and #2 option - when there were people here coming off 13 seconds saying Diggs and Davis was one of the best 1-2 duos in football. They should have had competition for Gabe then and they never did. I'm the one who has been consistent on Gabe. I was a "hater" three years ago, now I'm a "fanboy" whereas what has changed is wider perceptions not my view of who he is.

Yes and in his third year had a thousand yards, just shy of 400 of them in 3 games with 5 games under 40. That is the point. #2 and #3 options in the NFL often have their production spread unevenly and are more gameplan dependent. That is just the NFL and is true even of really, really good #2 options like Jameson Williams. You are not wrong about Gabe's production being unevenly spread. It just isn't really proof of anything. That is kind of how the league is. EDIT: want some other examples? Jaylen Waddle in 2024: 744 yards, 47% of them in three games; Jaylen Waddle in 2023: 1014 yards, 38% of them in three games; Tee Higgins in 2023: 656 yards, 51% of them in three games; Tee Higgins in 2024: 911 yards, 40% of them in three games; To be absolutely crystal clear I am NOT comparing Gabe to them in terms of talent, there is no comparison. They are among the best three or four #2s in football. What I am demonstrating is that production as a #2 and #3 receiver is often inconsistent week to week and it more "mountains and valleys" than you typically find with a #1 option. That's because of gameplan. You always try and feature your best guy, whatever the matchup, but with your complimentary pieces you maximise their opportunities some weeks (let's say against a team whose plan is just to double your #1 all day long) and other weeks you might want to use them to dictate coverage or run decoy routes or block for your run game or whatever the situation requires.

Have to say the Allen stats v Baltimore over the last few days have surprised me a little..... he will need to play better than that for us to win this week. I think 27-24. I just don't know who to 😄

Welcome to the world of #2 / #3 receivers in the NFL. That is the kind of story for most. Take Jameson Williams - who is much more talented than Gabe to be clear - broke out last year with his first 1,000 yard season (1,001 yards to be exact). Just shy of 40% of that production came in 3 games and he had 5 games under 40 yards. It's sort of par for the course for 2nd and 3rd option type guys. I don't think Gabe is ever gonna put up 1,000 yards.... but fully healthy he can put up 500 plus even if that is likely to be inconsitently spread through the season. The people acting like he is a scrub who can't play are way over the top. He isn't and never was, a difference maker. But he can play in the NFL. I think he had proven that more than some guys on our roster.

Yea that's my take they have plenty of options in the slot. I honestly don't know how much Moore is gonna play. I thinknafter a strong spring he disappeared in camp and if he can't work his way onto the field some then 4, 5, 6 weeks down the line I can well imagine them considering him expendable.

This is absolutely correct IMO. I have made similar points previously.

Moore most likely.

I think we were 28th or 29th not 31st. But still not good and it needs significant improvement in 2025.

I think he is a better option than Moore and possibly Samuel if he can't get on the field. I think Shavers is mainly there to play teams. So maybe he is a tad safer.

If that is true it will take longer. But he isn't here just to sit on the PS and rehab IMO. At some point he is here to be on the roster.

Moore is most in danger.

Give it 3 weeks he will be on the active roster.