Kirby Jackson

I’m not sure that they’d “maximize” him. I’m sure that the passing game would improve because his talent would get him open some. That’s what good receivers do. That’s why they get paid what they do. It’s a very important role and is one of the most impactful positions on the team. None of these WRs that they have were ever good. I think that they have combined for 2 seasons of 800 yards and 1 more at 700. That’s awful. These aren’t guys that are now struggling. They were never any good. I’d add another layer and that’s the OL. They’ve really struggled this year. Allen/Brady/OL share blame at some percentage.

If you rank WR groups 1-32, the Bills would be no higher than 30 (maybe 32). If you ranked the job that OCs are doing 1-32, Brady isn’t going to be 30 or worse. It’s not an even split. You can’t coach up bad players. He hasn’t put them in position to overachieve but they’re so limited that it impacts what he can do. Again, he’s been bad but compared to the talent at WR, they’re a significantly larger problem. He’s had success elsewhere. These guys haven’t. EDIT: If we believe that he is the one that wanted this “everybody eats” nonsense than his percentage of blame increases. The whole idea of having a handful of bad players instead of some top end talent is ridiculous. He was publicly promoting that ridiculousness but was it because he believed it or because that’s what he had to deal with?

Brady hasn’t been good. I think though where there’s some disagreement is how much is him vs. the WRs. I’d say it’s 80-85% the talent at WR. It’s 15-20% the position that he’s putting those bad WRs in.

Gross

Great play by Mahomes and Worthy. Of course, they’re going to win. As soon as Steichen punted it back to them from inside of KC territory they were done.

Had to play to win. Punting the ball to Mahomes and you get what you asked for.

9 penalties already on the Colts…

That official that was ruling that a TD needs to be investigated.

Had to run the ball there. The Chiefs either use their last timeout, 40 seconds tick off or you get the 1st. The last thing you should have done was a Daniel Jones shot play.

That call?!?

You know what’s funny is that this thread is from before LAST year. 🤣🤣 This was when they were about to run out Mack Hollins, Keon Coleman, Shakir and Curtis Samuel. Since then they added and subtracted Cooper. Hollins became Palmer, MVS & Jalen Virgil became Elijah Moore & Tyrell Shavers. Imagine feeling good about any of that?!? 🤣🤣

He was certainly on the back end of his prime. He was coming off being a difference maker for a Super Bowl Champ. He wasn’t 2015 Von Miller but you’d have gotten 3 good years if healthy. That was the plan. If I recall your options were Von and Chandler Jones.

They were 1 elite pass rusher from getting by KC. That wasn’t a long play. That was meant to instantly put them over the top. He was just coming off getting the Rams over the top. If healthy, they would have had 2 to 3 years to win one (or more). You had prime Josh and were 13 seconds away from a Super Bowl. That wasn’t time to worry about 3 years from now. It didn’t work but I absolutely, 100% supported it at the time and still do. On a side note, I’d love to have the conversation over some drinks. 🤣🤣 I’ve gotten into some good bourbons over the last few years. Let’s do it!! TBD Christmas party!!

The one big swing he took was on Von. It was the right decision at the time and is the right decision with hindsight. It didn’t work out but you took the right big swing.

You know what’s weird about the arrogance part? It just dawned on me that over the last few years the Bills have loaded up on former top 77 picks that failed everywhere. Lol, they believed that “if Andy Isabella comes here he will excel because we know best.” Looking over the last few years (in parenthesis is their draft slot): Cooper (4), Samuel (40), Moore (34), Coleman (33), Palmer (77), Hamler (46), Isabella (62), and Chase Claypool (49). With the exception of Cooper none of these guys were ever good. Now, I’m not going to be a hypocrite and fault them for taking a shot on guys that were highly thought of. I always scream for that. At the same time, there had to be a balance of, “this guy has been solid for a while” (Darnell Mooney types) to go along with Isabella, Hamler, Claypool, Coleman, etc…

What an insane story!!

It sucks that he sucks. He’s a great dude.

This is one of the most frustrating seasons of my life. The drought wasn’t always frustrating. They just weren’t very good. This season set up perfectly for them. They arrogantly didn’t look to improve upon what looked like the worst WR room in the NFL. Then the GM goes on the popular morning show. He condescendingly mansplains to the hosts and an educated fanbase why we are all wrong and he knows best. The Bills used the clip to promote the season!! They were insulting us. Almost instantly, what anyone with a brain could see, came to fruition. The WRs were trash. Now they’re about to waste a season in Josh Allen’s prime, where Baltimore and KC were down. The Bills had a very easy schedule. This year was set up perfectly. To this point, they’ve failed and it’s their own arrogance that has us here. Brady hasn’t done a great job this year. You can’t make guys that have never been good, good. This is on Beane. Brady has been bad but no one would flourish with this group. They stink.

This thread is the era’s version of trading Mario Williams for John Skelton.

I’ll definitely watch it at some point. I’m sure that it’s terrible. If the Bills are involved I watch regardless of how bad I know it’s going to be.

I don’t know. He’s a guy that’s played at a very high level not that long ago. He’s had injuries and poor play since. At the same time, we’ve seen an all-pro ceiling. I’d much rather spend on that then Rousseau or Bernard who we’ve seen be a quality role players. It’s easier to find quality role players than potential stars.

My brother has been saying the same thing. Hope that you guys are right. While I didn’t like the contract, he has had a knack for making big plays.

That one has been unfortunate. I had no issue paying him and would do it again. It may not work but we’ve seen him play at an elite level. Hopefully we see it again.

Shakir is fine at that contract. Benford earned his money even if he’s having a rough year. Paying Rousseau was a mistake and paying Bernard was a big mistake.

This poll feels like the rare time that there’s a “right” answer. It’s Beane. The roster isn’t good enough. If we are looking at “why did they lose ____ game” you can pick someone else. If we are looking at, “why is the Bills season going this way” it is Beane. There isn’t enough talent.