Kirby Jackson

This in a nutshell is the frustration for a lot of us with Beane. If not now, then when? You have the best player in franchise history, playing the most important position in sports. He’s in his prime. Everything that comes after him is irrelevant. You probably have 5 or 6 elite years left of Josh. You need to do everything to maximize that window. That’s your chance to get 1 (or hopefully more).

Chicken and egg

Is it sad, that I’m thinking, “let’s give Hardman a shot.” He kind of sucks but runs a 4.33 and is a decent returner. Maybe let him be the return guy and take a deep shot or 2. He at least adds a different element.

It does but the cap increases every year. So you spread cap hits and take bigger hits in later years when there is more cap space available. For example, the cap is roughly $24M more this year than last year.

Wanted to take a moment to honor and thank all of the veterans for their service. Thank you for your courage, dedication and sacrifice.

I think that the hardest part about FA now is that the best guys at positions of need no longer hit the market. Great WRs don’t really hit FA anymore. If they move, they’re traded like AJ Brown. With the exception of George Pickens (who has some question marks) you’re looking at 32 year old Mike Evans coming off of a season ending injury. Deebo is a role player that does what we already have. Shaheed is a good role player. Here’s the list: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/_/year/2026/position/wr That’s a big part of the reason that I think Torrence is traded before they have to pay him. They can plug in Anderson and hopefully have a minimal drop off. They can significantly upgrade at WR that way (I keep going back to Higgins). You just aren’t going to be able to get a WR1 unless you make a trade or get lucky in the draft. You may even trade up in the draft to get that guy (Carnell Tate). You can probably secure your other safety in FA (Jaquan Brisker) and depth elsewhere. Maybe you upgrade your backup RB there or find a speed WR that can also return kicks? You’ll also try to bring back some of your own like McGovern and Bosa. FA is no longer the time that you get impact players. There are a few, like Hendrickson, but in the last handful of years teams stopped letting those guys hit the market.

I’m pretty sure that rule changed. You can designate up to 2 guys as “post-June 1” releases but you don’t need to wait until June 1 to do it.

I’m seeing $2.9M of savings and a $2M dead cap hit on Bass. https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/buffalo-bills

Do you think, if the oddsmakers believed he WOULDN’T get a job, they’d have his odds higher or lower? I think it’s already pretty much set that he’s going to be a HC regardless of what happens the rest of the year. There will be a dozen or so jobs between the power 4 and the NFL. With the exception of Lane Kiffin, Brady is probably the likeliest person to nab one of those jobs. If Kiffin takes one, that opens another job. It’s just math.

It was never inferred that his “ prospects were better than ever.” It was hyperbole. You know that. We see it a lot here. You just got called on it. That was never said or inferred. I’m not weighing in if I think he “should” get a HC job. My statement was that he “will” get one. The statement was definitive because he will be a HC regardless of the job I think he’s doing. I don’t have a say. My opinion is that he hasn’t been very good this year (at all). He will be a HC next year. Both of those are true. I’m citing oddsmakers who build big buildings by winning. If they didn’t have information or believe he was a candidate at that level they’d try to attract action. By placing him as the betting favorite for LSU and the 2nd choice for the Titans, they’re trying to steer bettors away from him limiting their exposure. Believe it or not, they hear things and know things.

I was just using over the cap. They are saying that the hit cap be split with post June 1. 🤷🏻‍♂️

No doubt. It’s just a feeling. I think that he gets a deal bigger than Robert Hunt just got (5 years $100M and $63M guaranteed). They can get a lot for him. I suggested dealing him and a pick for Higgins. It potentially better balances the Bills and Bengals. They’d plug Anderson into that spot. That’s what over the cap says anyways. It’s posted earlier in the thread.

You can call it whatever. If they replace: Taron, Milano, Knox, Rapp, Bass, Samuel and DaQuan Jones, that is a lot. I also have this feeling that Torrence gets traded before getting paid.

I believe that if extended though the Bills can spread that cap hit out. For example if they bring back McGovern and Bosa they can take those “void year hits” and roll them into the new deal. They can also designate Jones and Milano as post-June 1 and save about $7M for next year.

Who said “his HC prospects were stronger than ever?” Please quote where that was said. You’re too smart to use hyperbole to try to mislead people. Let’s not try to distort reality to strengthen our argument. You’re better than that. What was said is that, “he will be a HC in 2026.” He will. No one said that his prospects were stronger than ever. It’s based on the landscape and odds. He’s the betting favorite for the LSU job. He’s a candidate at Penn State. He will be a candidate for the handful of NFL jobs that open. He’s +400 and the second choice to be the Titans HC. He’s +1200 to be the Giants next HC despite them just firing the last guy who was previously Josh Allen’s OC. https://www.betonline.ag/sportsbook/futures-and-props/nfl-regular-season/coaches.

I forgot about Rapp. If they designate Jones and Milano as post June 1 that opens up about $7M. https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/buffalo-bills I am with you on retooling for next year. The Bills have a chance to reshape this roster with significant turnover but without significant drop off. Hawes will fill the Knox role. Taron has lost a step and Cam/Hancock can fill in adequately. Milano never plays. Bernard can move into that slot and get a bigger body in the middle. Jones is a rotational guy in an area where, if healthy, they have a lot of bodies. Rapp and Samuel are easily replaced.

I am no capologist but was messing around on there last night. I expect Milano, Knox, Taron, Jones and Samuel to all be gone. A couple of them will carry a post-June 1 designation. edit: I forgot Rapp and Bass too

They were 3rd (1/2 point behind Detroit). Their 29.4 PPG trailed Indy and Detroit. They were first in yards per game. They lost because they got behind and couldn’t run. They went down 2 scores early in the second quarter of yesterday’s game and the Atlanta game. They clawed their way back in both times but couldn’t establish the run while trailing by multiple scores. The Atlanta game that you mentioned, became a 7 point game in the 3rd. The Bills pretty much had a 50/50 split between running and passing until it became a 2 score game again. The Bills had 3 drives down 7 that resulted in no points. I don’t know if you’re insinuating that Brady won’t be a HC in 2026. If that’s what you’re getting at, we strongly disagree. If we are asking if he’s done a great job this year, he has not. At the same time, they’ve piled up yards and points despite the receivers. Someone will certainly hire him as the head man. James Franklin is going to get another job!!

I’ll go 11-6 and a WC. They’ll win 1 playoff game.

I guess this is where there is so much disagreement on this board. What’s the floor for the Bills with this schedule and Josh Allen? If you hired an average coach from NCAA/NFL what’s the worst that they would be with this group? 11-6 maybe? They were the betting favorite in all 17 games prior to the year. It feels to me like “insert average coach here” and you’d win 11+. I fail to see the downside? That’s why I’ve been team make a change since 13 seconds. I believe lots and lots and lots of coaches could win the AFCE & a playoff game or 2 with Josh Allen and their schedule.

Not shocking after yesterday

Whether it does or doesn’t remains to be seen. It’s very clear though that the heat has turned up in the court of public opinion.

Which of these is better? a) 111 receptions (159 targets), 1,280 yards, 7 TDs, 11.53 YPC b) 63 receptions (93 targets), 1,041 yards, 5 TDs, 16.52 YPC

This was before the season!! Do you not remember or are you not familiar with the, now famous, “this isn’t fantasy football” conversation? That was before the Bills played a snap this year. This isn’t just the “angry after loss” situation. The heat has absolutely been turned up (specifically on Beane) for not helping Josh.

Oh man, they are the absolute worst!! I’m at war with them right now. Quick story that’s pretty insane. I sold my KC tickets on there (went with a friend). I pulled in my driveway Monday after a work dinner and got a push notification from Amex that I had a charge for the sale price of my tickets from Stubhub. I lost my damn mind. They claimed that the buyer never received the tickets. You are given an email address to auto upload the tickets when you list. That’s what I did. Not only have they not paid me for them they charged me the cost!! I went to the Bills the next day and had them pull the documentation from the ticketing system including the time that they were sent and the email address that they were sent to. They are still “investigating” what happened. This will be going on for 30 days apparently. They’re the worst!!