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One of those cliche's that is kind of meaningless. What exactly does it mean? He never really won anything...why does being "the best pure passer" make him a great QB...isn't the point of the game to win? Not saying Marino was a bum, but personally, I think he is one of the more overrated QB's in modern NFL history. A high volume passer who threw a lot more passes than most of his contemporaries.

To hear Bills "mafia" talk, our favorite team is now a dumpster fire....why would they but a dumpster-fire on national tv, opening night?

Sorry if it's beebn said alreadt, but I think part of the reason he hung on so long was that he offered teams a "freakish" array of unusual skills. I think some coaches saw him as a gadget or trick player. In just the last 10 years or so, NFL offenses have changed so much, across the board. Guys like Michael Vick are much more the norm now.

That is what is great about sports

Burrow was great tonight...I think he, and his teammates are a bit too cocky for their own good...but I'm not taking anything away from Burrows game. Maybe getting knocked down a peg will be good for them. I heard/read a lot of crap about how cocky and arrogant the Bills were... but the objective truth is, while it is a fact that our fan-base can be incredibly thin-skinned at times (don't question our QB,or say that we don't have the best team in the league even before a down is played), Bills players were never as cocky as that Bengals bunch. Going into this weekend, I couldn't really muster up any strong feeling about any of the teams left. The Bengals/Bills lovefest lasted about a second. While their team representatives said the right things, their players chirped pretty quickly. Normally, I would have rooted for the Bengals...but as the game progressed, I realized, my bitter old Bills heart wanted, more than anything, for the Bengals to lose, not necessarily for the Chiefs to win. Sports hate can really mess you up, can't it?

A MAGA no doubt

Actually, the only one "pushing 80" is Sally Field at 76. The others are well past: Lilly Tomlin is 83, Jane Fonda is 85 and RIta Moreno is 91.

All those who hated the idea of OBJ in a Bills uniform should be leary of Michael Thomas too. Not a good "team" guy.

Watching, and re-watching the Bills defeat the 49'ers in Super Bowl LVII

I think that "little boy exuberance" thing he does, where his voice cracks is a forced attempt to create a "signature" style. It is just awful...I don't think he did it 10 or 15 years ago.

So were the fans who wanted Zay Jones "gone" right as well?

They just need to win this damn thing.

Rumor has it that Davis is not a big fan of Carr. Though, like you say, it is the Raiders, so you never know. There was also a story earlier in the season that McDaniel's was likely safe, simply because Davis is broke, and can't afford to pay another coach, not to coach.

Mike Tirico was on MSNBC earlier, and suggested it may be settled by win percentage.

Yes...at some point they showed him, where you could see his face...

You are correct....I'm an idiot!

Forgive me if this has been mentioned already. I wish I had DVR'd the game, but I swear, when Taron Johnson went down to injury (a dirty head blow by Hayden Hurst in my opinion, shocked that they didn't at least look at it) for some reason, when Joe Buck said that Hamlin was coming in, they briefly showed him coming off the sideline, putting his helmet on...he looked uncomfortable to me then. At the time, I just thought it was perhaps concern for Johnson..or knowing that he has become sort of a fan whipping boy over the last 6 weeks or so....I didn't think it was that unusual...but I noticed it immediately. It's not the kind of thing I would normally notice, it was just a brief shot. Maybe it was nothing.Did anyone else see this?

I think Simms is more of a Josh Allen fan than a Bills fan. He seems to have soured (like a lot here) on the Bills offensive roster.

I was banging the drum for this before the trade deadline. I love Jacobs...probably my favorite non-Bills player in the league right now. That said though, it doesn't seem as necessary a move as it did a few months ago. He will command a large contract, and he can't help us out this season. The emergence of Singletary and Cook has been a pleasant surprise.

Yeah, you completely missed my point... but since you bring it up, he started 25 games in the league and appeared in 31, over 3 years. Nobody, except Al Davis thought JaMarcus was a first round pick, let alone the best player in the draft that year. Josh Rosen, on the other hand, was regarded by many to be one of the 3 or4 best QB prospects in a strong QB draft. Many "experts" had him as one of the top 3 QB prospects. He has been in the NFL for 5 years, played on six teams, and started a grand total of 16 games in the league. I wasn't saying JaMarcus Russell was underrated, or even good..or that he wasn't a "bust"... .but to me, he doesn't belong on a "Mt Rushmore" of draft busts. The expectations for him weren't really that high, outside the Raiders organization.

My point with Russell was, the Raiders drafted him #1 overall in the NFL draft. He was a huge bust, for the Raiders. But 31 other NFL teams would never have drafted him #1 overall. To me, that is just an indictment of the Raiders ineptitude, rather than Russell's ability. He very well may still have been awful, but a 3rd round QB pick that doesn't amount to anything is more the norm.

It is pretty clear from the responses here, we don't have a clear definition of what a "bust" is.

Thanks. That is what I was trying to say..

He's just the latest..his career isnt over yet, either. I would say Josh Rosen is a much more serious contender at this point. I also wouldn't put JaMarcus on there either. He was vastly overrated, and overdrafted by the Raiders...but most didn't have any huge expectations for him....he was a very green prospect. Someone like Rosen was pretty universally expected to be an bonafide NFL starter. Russell was always viewed as a very raw prospect. Who knows, had he been drafted in the 3rd or 4th round, as many expected, he might have developed into something more. Team overdrafted him, and put unreasonable expecations on him...he was bound for failure.

Since when do we go by anything but stats? Context? Did i miss the memo?