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Hackett doesn't know how to use the talent when he has it....seems like he is a ball control one trick pony.....not an all around o coordinator. I am thinking if Marrrone survives....Hackett should go......need a new O coordinator.....Hackett can'g get it going. Didn't know how to use CJ, and doens't really use the verticle threat game...even when he has his guys on the field. I am guessing the Bills have gone long fewer times than any other NFL team is year....somebody out there probabily knows how to do those stats, I don't.

Sanchez on 1 year contract he will be on the market again on January!

Well, I am wondering about the role Pepper Johnson is playing in Brown's rapid development.....I think Pepper is going to make the call regarding the need to resign Spikes. I like spikes, a veteran presence and he delivers on the field. Not as bad in coverage as his reputation btw...and a real run plugger. Going to be hard to tweek the D to a better place in 2015......its already good. We do want the DL intact, though. Resign hughs/Darieus in consequetive years.

BAD CASE OF SOUR GRAPES, THIS GUY WAS HOPING TO MOVE THE BILLS TO LA. MAYBE IN ANOTHER LIFETIME FELLA!!!

Eli has won two Superbowls..........Payton one.....yep, he isn't Payton....

Ahhhh Cable was like mentally unstable out there in Oakland.....we got nuff of that.

Yes, that is true. Downtown Buffalo will also be a terrible location.....the traffic pattern will be terrible from a flow point of view. Orchard Park has roads out in four directions, downtown is limited on the water side.....as a season ticket holder, I can tell you I will not be a season ticketholder downtown. Of course, the current snow situation does point out the desireability of a dome. If I were investing my own money in a stadium, I would make it a 12 month facility. Retractable would be nice, but not madatory...that needs thought. As far as preparing for a major snow like this, if its in the design parameters the engineers start with, the roof can be made to withstand the snow...you just have to pay for it. Finally, I have to say this, if such a facility were built with my money (say I was T Pegula and could do that), then, I , for sure ,wouldn't be listening to all this grief about putting all the games on TV...there would be no taxpayer money involved.

You will know the game is in danger of being moved when the price goes to $20/hour......

I read it....but I am a season ticket holder and have seen Manuel play a lot. Manuel does not have pro accuracy.. Can't throw the deep ball at all, and he "lost" his receivers during the 2014 season/first four games. The gestures after he missed them told it all. Marrone took the heat for the decision, but Manuel lost the receiver core....and they were excited to have Orton be the starter. Further, it was not necessary to have a limited playbook so Manuel could succeed...Orton the veteran could absorb the whole thing after 4 weeks with the team. I would further comment that if Orton had been with the Bills in training camp, he would have been the starter out of camp. Remember, the plan was for Kolb to play the first year...and let EJ learn by sitting...ala Aaron Rogers at Green Bay (3 seasons) I honestly think, if EJ is ever to succeed, he needs to sit awhile and get mentally ready. I remain skeptical he has the arm.....however, and, if I were making the choice, I would give him only one more season to show himself. After that......adious if he isn't clearly an NFL QB....and it sure isn't obvious now.

Down here in Ft Myers Fl, had to move my return flight to Buffalo from Weds to Friday...good judgement etc....making that call. Of course, Sammy is from Ft Myers, and you know his TWEETS/videos on his first snow are being played on all the local news broadcasts down here.

The Bills will be hiring multitudes to shovel out the stadium come Friday......$8/hr and lots of fresh air......and, with the way tickets are selling, maybe they will give all the shovelers tickets for the Jets game as well.

You want Bleacher, just sign up for their daily e-mails on whatever you choose to follow. I get Bills, and Syracuse basketball.

Belicheck was a diaster in Cleveland, and a mad/bad genius in NE......not sure Schwartz wouldn't make the same transition. I say give it a try if Marrone is out. Getting a good O Coordinator is real important.........Chan Gailey is available to unretire!!LOL Where is Bobby april these days?

Actually, not all incompletions are misses/bad throws. some are throwing balls away.....usually on shorter passes its easier to detect...on long passes it just looks like a miss. I don't know how to account for that in your analysis. Anyhow, I certainly saw some of those, and you did not mention those in the stats, therefore I intrepret you counted those as missed throw. the were missed, but on purpose.....that said, it was certainly not Orton's best game. So, I don't object to the overall conclusion. But, we know he is not Andrew Luck or tom Brady.....its just that he is so much better than EJ he is who the Bilss should play now.

The problem with quoting these stats is that he was totally coddled by Hackett, and ran an offense designed to make a green QB survive while undergoinlg OJT. Put him in the o that Orton is running...that is the full menu, and Manuel would have a rating half of what he has realized to date.

I like Cutlers talent, and he can be a superbowl QB. I don't think the current Bills staff has the moxy to manage him, though. (recalling the Josh McDaniel fiasco in Denver)

EJ, no way. Give him another training camp.....and, we know, he does not enjoy the support of the veterans on the squad, especially in the receiving core who know how bad his arm is. As for Orton, he is better than his current detractors say, and not as good as his major advocates say. But, he is better than EJ by a lot. The Bills at 5-5 are not out of it, just really a long shot. If EJ comes in and looks terrible again, he would be done in Buffalo....not sure its time for thay yet....he will get season three says me. After that, adious if he isn't cutting it big time....no 5 year audition like Losman got. As for Gragg mentioned in other threads....I am a total non believer....drops way to many balls...not in any way the receiver that Chandler is.....and, way to small to block effectively.....Chandler is only half effective, Gragg no blocking skill. Gragg is really almost an H back....who has questionable hands.

Unlikely Schwartz stays unless he is the new HC. I think he has a lot of money still coming from the Lions, and what the Bills pay is just deducted from that......I think it works that way. Schwartz is coaching here to stay in the hunt for another HC job......he nets nothing in terms of money........for another year yet I think as well. Perhaps somebody on this board knows the exact terms, I do not. I agree Whaley is talented, but he needs a grey head to help get the right answers on the draft......Watkins is a stud, but, so is Kelvin Benjamin...picked at #27 or something like that. And other first round receivers doing really well also. Not sure the Watkins trade was true value.......especially when another QB is apparently necessary. I don't see a long term keeper at QB on the roster right now.

Unfortunately, Harbaugh is just a more talented verson of Greg Williams......thinks he is still in college. I really don't want to see him with the Bills......

Im down here in Ft Myers. Huge coverage on local TV about Sammy coming back to Florida for a game and a lot of pro Bills talk on the station I was watching. Sammy was back during the bye and was prominent at his high school's football game that weekend, clips of that included as well as live showing Sammy warming up in the Phins stadium. watching tonight at a local sports bar...wearing my bills gear....hoping thats not a problem.

The D is solid, the O is questionable. Marrone might survive if he cuts Hackett loose.....the number? Well, not sure its totally the number. If they are decent , say 8-8, and playing well and hard and competitive.....I guess they might get another shot. If they go 9-7 and look like garbage....I think a change could be in order. Pegula is in the entertainment business.....and that factor needs to be considered by all the die hard football folks on this board. Other intangibles might also be considerations....are Marrone/Hackett respected in the locker room? I don't know....I suspect Whaley has his sources to assess that, we certainly don't here on this site. OK, I am saying this is complex calculus, and will not easily be characterized by a win number. Sorry for the run on answer.

Orton the remainder of the year, Marrone has made his choice....and he is right. Now, about next year and the various phases of camp....I expect to see another QB candidate....either a draftee......practice squad replacement for Tuel......or a vet if the gloss of off EJ.. and I certainly think it is. EJ, with a bad preseason, could be GONE!

I was never a Sanchez hater, but I was and still am a Sanchez doubter.......he hasn't shown he is an A player....he might be a C+ players or even a B-.

With a loss Thursday, the Bills would be 5-5, and would be, at most, spoilers for other playoff bound teams for the remainder of this season. I actually feel the bills have a better chance thursday than they did Sunday against KC. Bills have handled the 'phins last three outings, I recall. Buffalo has talent, and the coaching staff is actually adapting to a more wide open style now that the running game is so-so, and we have a competant QB. As for next year, Pegula will do whatever he wants.....and that may well be determined by how the Bills play the rest of the year. If they play hard and end up 8-8, I think the current management stays......if they play "run for the bus" football at any time...then new coaching will be in place next year. (thats actually a WNY term...learned in many previous Bills administrations of prior decades) I think though, that Whaley will survive......and be faced with having to sign our real performers in free agency. (Darius, Hughes, and maybe Spiller come to mind) Pegula may also be influenced by the experience he has had with the Sabres....where he kept an entrenched management in place for too long. The Sabres are one the right track now, albeit a very long road back to respectibility. These Bills are not anyway, any how in as bad a shape as the Sabres are wrt to haveing mature talent on the roster. As a long time season ticket holder, I am tired of having a new administration every three years......I know that Ralph Wilson's problems in getting top notch coaching were influenced by his apparent lame duck status as owner when he was in his 90's. The Pegula's do not appear to have that concern, and with the franchise here for long term, coaching talent not previously available might be had. Marrone has a 4 year contract, and, if let go, would have a couple of years to land on his feet......that might be the right choice.

Well, Goodwin is next to useless.....hurt way to often.....and, not getting offensive snaps when he is healthy. He is a notch above everybody in the league from a speed point of view, but what is he doing sticking his nose into the middle of the pile returning kickoffs......he should be a run out of bounds type...that speaks to a coaching shortcoming in my view. Anyhow, other than the 1 important catch, he is a non contributor this year. Mike Williams...well, he has this contract thing....and its over 3 mil a year for multiple years going forward...this year is cheap by comparison. I think Marrone/Whaley have already concluded he will not get to that part of contract as a Bill.....he will be cut loose after the season. So, why invest playing time when others are capable. I have to admit Hogan is playing as well as I think he can. Anyhow, yesterday was a passing day...and the QB was only fair...didnt have his best long ball, oh wait, we didn't try the long ball (save one shot to Sammy) I guess we will never know...Anyhow, neither of these guys is a better contributor than TJ Graham would have been. I am thinking Graham was a casuality of "not being their guy", that is he was not a Marrone/Hackett pick. Thats why we have Hogan, not Graham. Back to Williams.Goodwin, neither, imho, will be bills next year based on their performance this year.