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I see the "brittle" issue as legit. I also see the Bills have used gilmore as a PR/advertising "shutdown corner" for several years. Problem is, I haven't see much of that behavior on the field. He is not a Patrick Peterson or Richard Sherman. He might yet be, but not yet.......so, my view, the contract offer should be incentive laden......which reduces that hit if he doesn't perform. Frankly, I think the Bills have believed their own PR a little to much. I see a lot of parallels here to the Nate Clements situation a few years ago....Nate was B grade CB....and got megabucks...elsewhere. In retrospect, it was a good call to let him got to the 49's (I think) He finished in Cince if I recall correctly. Anyhow, Gilmore has not yet done the all pro thing....he is a very good CB...but hasn't shown A player status yet imho. He wants A player cash......I hope Whaley can sort this out and limit what they pay to what is justified based on performance. Rex, of course, wants all the D he can get to resurect his reputation as a D genius, so he won't mind overpaying. And, if it comes down to getting one only, I want TT...not Gilmore!!!

Incognito selection would be politically incorrect, despite his fine season last year.

Reports have us signing a LS as an undrafted FA Would not have noticed the all black list, but it came up here. Hopefully, this means that Whaley picks the best football players, and isn't trying to be politically correct (via a split ticket) I, for one, do not read racist intent on Whaley's part. However, I do see the validity of the comment on the current state of our society, in that, for sure, a white GM picking all white draftee's would be lambasted by the politically correct crowd, and that Whaley will not be lambasted..perhaps because of some statistical argument I just read on this board.

They can, however, save a roster spot..... As a calculating risk taker, I like this play. Might hit....not much ventured in terms of draft choice......

Shaq Lawson.....Manny Lawson.......starting a new name cluster.....Williams was getting full.

Bradford played some decent games last year. But, long term, he is brittle, and not the QB we want...especially at $16mil a year. Lets see Tyrod again before we spend that kind of money.

I remember the Bills taking Willis McGahee.....didnt play the first year........and, not enough attention paid to other factors regarding his draftablity. For example, McGahee never learned the play book....had to be signaled by the RB coach each play from the sidelines to know what to do. In his case, he was undraftable because of his mental capability. A clean miss on the Bills part. Ultimately, his physical tools returned to some extent, and he had a decent and fairly long NFL career. But, he was never a game changer that his #1 draft pick status should have indicated. My view, stay away from damaged goods guys....they might make it partway back....McGahee made it 90% back...and that was good enough to play. But, at 80% back , he would have been a wash out.

Tony was SLOW......I am not surprised.

A good word...used to describe all the jobs in the USA that have gone off shore. In the case of footplayers, it means he can play elsewhere with his skills.

Yes, actually, we went to little Italy!!!And, the food was fab.

Our group went to the Raven's game about a decade ago....we stayed a ways north of the city in a motel, at a location very near a train station, and took the train right to the stadium....yes...there was a station at the stadium. The tailgating at that time was all PGA like.....closed corporate tents etc.....not a tailgate in the sense we do that at the Ralph. The stadium is decent enough for football, we were upper deck..a long way away. We also went into the inner harbor in Baltimore (Camden Yard is also there) and did some walk about....hitting some great resturants and enjoying the area. BUT, after the trouble there just recently, I would not visit down there today,recalling the riots and the burning of buildings/CVS store. Camden yard was canceling ballgames during all that.......use your own judgement on that issue...but, that is mine.

The schedule seems OK from the point of view they might be able to succeed. From the season ticket holder point of view, however, we got hosed again. Last half of the season with games on Nov 27, Dec 11,18, 24? Come on, man.......those games will be in cold weather, and those who don't like that weather will not attend those games. And, my family celebrates Christmas on Dec 24......going back more than 7 decades. I will miss that game for sure...and ever try to resell tickets for a cold weather game? ( ng for sure ) Then, I count 10 (ten) games subject to being flexed from a timing point of view. wtf (5 home, 5 away) So, the move to changing the description of where the games are played from stadium to studio is well underway. TV IS the customer, that stadium attendees are chump change and not considered when the schedule is put together. This season will be my last as a season ticket holder.

The first round pick is critical, if for no other reason than they are bound by their rookie contract for a longer period than the subsequent rounds. So, if you hit big, the rookie wage scale is in play one year longer. And, the later you pick in the first, the less money it takes to bind the draft choice.

I want Fitz to also retire!

Unfortunately, Whaley has played this game wrong...in that Osweiller like defection may well happen next year. (or maybe that agent played the game well) I think TT stays this year, plays well, and hits the free agent market with no preconceived notion of what team he will play for in 2017. Services to the highest bidder. That would be very business like....he will honor his contract, and stay professional. He will get max dollar......and, if he has even a slightly better year than last year.....he will be a $20mil/year guy. He signed with Buffalo to get the chance to show he was a starter...if he does that again, the Bills got two years of low cost QB play.......it was an good deal for both parties. Going forward, who knows how this plays. The only thing Whaley can do is draft another QB (OR, 2)......to have at least one ready under contract in 2017. (learn from John Elway's mistakes in Denver) We know EJ is weak and likely career backup material at best. And, EJ's contract is up...and like Losman, he will have played his rookie contract out....and, he may have the same result as Losman...never see game action in the NFL again.(EJ gone next year imho) The Bills have blown two first round QB picks, had both of them play out 5 year contracts......and don't have a QB to show for that decade of wasted effort.

TT is REX's guy.....nuff said.

I would be surprised if ANY offensive player were selected in the first round. REX has his defensive reputation on the line, and he will force Whaley to get him some guns in the first few rounds. Would not surprise me if we didn't see an O player until the 4th round. More screwed up results from a setup where the head coach reports to the owner and can go around the GM to the boss when he wants to. So, Terry can make the pick.......no hope imho for a best player available selection. Rex will force a draft of whoever he thinks can help save his D reputation the most. If the Wr from ol Miss is there, he should be the pick....but, that can never happen with the management structure.

Yes, our clown twin has also started to collect strays...at least they aren't former Jets.

Yes, the twin clowns are one trick ponies.

If Bills finish last.....they can fire the twin clowns to start.....and, since I am getting desperate....I would go all in on Whaley....and tell him to go hire the HC....and, if they don't make in in two years, I would clean house totally. It would be time, then, to find out if Whaley is a real GM....not just a sorta GM.

Poloncarz is firing his musket in the press not liking the pressure from the NFL owners. But, to deal with those guys, Poloncarz is not much of a player.(Cuomo will be our guy) You deal with those guys in the conference room....you don't do it in the press. Poloncarz is more likely running for office here...its a political statement. He may be right in a lot of what he says, he just should muzzle himself and handle himself in a big league way. But, why did the last "retrofit" have to eliminate the drinking fountains......was it to sell more $5 bottles of water? Its about the money folks.......I am a current season ticket holder, but I won't be in any downtown venue...no tailgating and not enough roads in and out.

Fitz has made a lot of money, he is set for life........Fitz other option is to retire....and the Jets know that. He doesn't want to work for chump change d(by QB standards)

Thinking about the dome vs open issue......I think a dome would have made the field available for the Jets game a couple of years ago (moved to Detroit) But, that game was delayed/moved because the county infrastructure and services could not handle game traffic in the middle of a storm emergency. (the NFL got that one right btw) A dome would not have helped in that situation in terms of having the game go as planned at home. and, I don't think the infrastructure situation is any better in downtown Buffalo, probabily worse actually. So, a dome doesn't buy anything in those circumstances imho. Perfect Practice makes perfect......you have to practice in the conditions you play in. Maybe you have to repeat the work outside after the mental part is covered indoors. Comfy practice does not make foul weather play better!!!

You only have a home field advantage in bad weather if you practice out in the bad weather regularily. But, the Bills practice inside in their dome when the weather is bad...you have to put in the game plan, you know. So, I am not sure I buy the bad weather is an advantage argument unless Rex has the team out there when its really bad. Practice outside in bad weather to prepare to play in it. what they do now is practice outside when its sunny and a nice day. :doh:As a result, I don't think the Bills really have a preparedness advantage that some speak of here.

Basically no.........vet minimum, well, maybe if money is available for that.....with some incentives to make it worth while. His degree of brittleness is the problem....he never plays a full season....and, he will take up a roster spot. He gets hurt, he gets his money again for doing nothing...last year, collected 6 mil for what, 5 games. In addition, I thought his presense on the field took away from Sammy being #1......Ryan feels the need to justify bringing in one of his strays. (yes, Ryan collects stray dogs, particularily ex Jets)And, that doesn't make him a recruiter. I think we should pass on Harvin and go elsewhere. And, because of the brittleness issue, I think our former third round draft choice, Goodwin, also has to go.Goodwin is hard not to like, but his production is zilch in three years. Neither has skills or a body type to be a blocker on the outside like Hogan was. (yes, that is a requirement in our run first O)