TheBrownBear

I like your thinking and I'm starting to come around to the idea that Coleman might eventually turn into a stud. I don't think it will be right away, but I like his ceiling. He's fluid and you can just see he's a naturally gifted athlete.

The only reason anyone should mention Shorter is because he's a mid-round pick in his second season. The comparisons end there. Watching Shorter's college tape, I just don't see "it" and I can't really understand what the Bills were thinking when they drafted him. Big, slow, can't separate, didn't really produce at the college level, etc. I got to watch Shavers quite a bit here in San Diego, and I think he's a superior prospect to Shorter and likely snags that spot at the bottom of the WR depth chart.

I'm referring to the photographer punching, not the attempted vehicular manslaughter.

"Investigated." The dude hasn't been charged and who hasn't wanted to punch a photographer in the face now and then. 😁

Honestly, my initial reaction to this thread was that it was completely pathetic and sad on many levels.

Choosing TO feels like a cheat given his end of career sole season in Buffalo, but it has to be him and Mario Williams if talking players in their primes

I agree. I'm thinking of starting another thread titled "If They Did Enough: Discussions of the Bills WR Room.". It's kind of a semi-fictitious thread about the threads that have been posted regarding our WR group.

Hamler looks skinnier to me than Lil Dirty. He's more like Deonte Harty or Roscoe Parrish. If he makes the team, he'll make a handful of eye popping plays and spend half the season on IR.

I don't mind the approach at all. But we still need a number 1 receiver. Maybe Coleman becomes that guy, but it is a major question mark at the moment.

I mean, we know he can play when motivated. He's 25 and doesn't have an injury history. He should just be hitting his prime now. The question is whether his attitude is right. If he's suddenly transformed into a hardworking, team first guy, then this is a great signing. I don't have much hope, since you don't really see guys just flip their personalities in their mid-20s. I guess Cris Carter is a guy that turned it around. Just have to wait and see.

I don't like the player at all. A tiger doesn't change its stripes, so I fully expect him to show his true self in camp and get kicked to the curb before final cuts. But, we are in desperation mode at wide receiver, so this is what you get I guess. We absolutely need one of Hamler, Claypool, Isabella, Shorter or Cephus to pan out and contribute. I assume Hollins sticks as a special teamer and bottom of the depth chart receiver. I like Shakir a lot as a potential no. 2/3 and Samuel as a no. 3, and I'm hoping Coleman can slot into the Gabe Davis role, but damn, that is a really weak receiver room. We are going to really need to utilize Kincaid, Cook and Knox in the passing game.

Correct. And there's got to be something there beyond just a mediocre combine that is concerning teams. He's got great advanced stats and proves his skills on the field over multiple seasons.

Yeah, he does pass the eye test. Not blazing fast, but really good athlete, pretty smooth for his size, goes up and gets the ball in contested catch situations. There's a lot to like there. I think he projects as an upgrade on Gabe Davis as the vertical threat in the offense. Don't see him as the do it all #1 guy.

He's got good release technique that makes up for non-elite burst in the first 10 yards. His biggest weakness to me is his contested catch ability. He's a guy that needs to catch it in space.

Some of these takes....just jeez. Hill is a generational talent and he's got 25 pounds on Worthy. And in an odd and obviously tragic coincidence, two of the four fastest players committed vehicular manslaughter.

I'm sure you've seen this, Logic, but if not, here's some more salve for the wound:

That's where the ESPN mock had the Bills taking him this morning. Had us going DeJean/Franklin with our 2nd round picks. If that actually came to fruition, I'd be ecstatic.

If there's a guy they love, then sure, they should stay put and grab him. But if they have McConkey, Mitchell, Franklin, Coleman all sort of ranked similarly on their board, then I think they should move back a bit to increase the value of one of their later 2nd or 3rd rounders.

I think Kincaid can be an elite pass catching tight end, probably as early as next year. Cook is a very good back (though needs to clean up the easy drops). We need to draft two receivers between the 2nd and 3rd rounds and hope that one of them turns into, at minimum, an 80 catch, 1000 yard guy.

If you're not going to take DeJean, then this scenario makes the most sense. I really hope Beane is able to pull off a trade back. The other option is taking DeJean and trying to move back up in the 2nd round to grab a guy like Franklin or Coleman. I assume both of those guys will be gone by pick 60.

I love what Beane did yesterday. Once the top three receivers came off the board and there wasn't an immediate run on the second tier of receivers, I definitely wanted Beane to trade back for additional draft capital in the second and third rounds. Just taking a look at all of the good players available on the board right now, I wouldn't be against being moving back another few pics to increase the value of our second second round pick. There's a decent chance we walk away with our new starting center and two receivers that can contribute as rookies.

It's definitely concerning. Beane has to draft two WRs in the second and third rounds tomorrow, right?

I'd say zero. The opposing defense would jam the receivers and the safeties would crowd all the short stuff knowing id have zero chance of completing anything down the field more than 5-10 yards. I guess there's always the chance of my receiver catching a jumpball or something, but that's really none of my doing.

We clearly need to trade for Justin Jefferson. I've done the maths and they tell me he'd routinely post 2000 yards with Josh Allen.

I believe Bass will bounce back this year. I suspect he had some sort of lingering injury that was affecting him.