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And neither left practice with an injury!

Just saw PFFffffft's ratings for the game. Here are the top 5 Bills grades on offense: TE Jackson Hawes: 91.4 WR Deon Cain: 77.5 RG Mike Edwards: 74.3 WR Kristian Wilkerson: 71.6 RB Frank Gore Jr.: 67.9 I think this tracks. I didn't really notice Cain but agree with the others.

I've also never heard Gabe utter a negative word about being in Buffalo. And we know Josh loves him. As a WR4 it makes a lot of sense. Cut Moore and trade Samuel. The WRs are Shakir, Palmer, Coleman, Davis, Shavers, and Shenault (for returns). Not bad at all.

Everyone always talked about him being a great teammate. I think the problem for most fans who have responded in this thread is that they envision Gabe as a poor #2 WR -- which he was -- and not the player you're suggesting he could be here. He'd be one of the best WR4's in the league. If he is willing to accept that role and the $$ is right...why not?

Perhaps you might have considered that on a Bills forum the topic of the new stadium and all of the associated details would have already been discussed at length. Or maybe that’s just me. Real grass! Yay!

You're absolutely right. I'm glad this thread was started because there is nowhere else on the board to discuss these issues.

Repeat that three times and do something else for a couple of weeks.

Preseason or regular season?

Good thread. Most people grade a draft after one season.

The only one of these three we’ve actually seen in regular season football games with Josh Allen is Samuel, so I don’t know how you can even begin to make such a statement. Amari Cooper is still a free agent. That should tell you everything. I believe Beane should try to trade Samuel after cuts. Palmer isn’t going anywhere and there’s no reason to believe he won’t be at least as good as he was with the Chargers. Moore is still a mystery, although dropping an easy dump-off last night doesn’t help his case.

Two weeks until Belichick & Co. take center stage on Monday night vs. TCU. It will be the only CFB game that day/night. I plan to be there; the atmosphere will no doubt be electric and there are few college football venues more visually appealing than Kenan Stadium in Chapel Hill. Huge early test against a program that has established itself as a legitimate player. Based upon their schedule, if the Heels win this one they will likely not lose until a 10/4 matchup vs. Clemson (in Chapel Hill). It’s about to get real!

As a Bills fan, I’m going to be thinking about this issue all day.

This, I think, it the reasonable take right now. Last night was ugly but he really has just gotten back into practice. At least he didn’t get hurt!

Don’t sell yourself short. You were mocked for plenty of other things as well.

It was ugly. I’m really hoping it is just a function of him missing time, being the only starter out there, and “knocking off the rust” as he put it after the game. It’s not the end of the world if a 2nd round pick is a bust, but it ain’t great either.

And Shavers was wide open for a TD that White overthrew also. I think he’s making the team; he just gets open, and he’s a ST contributor.

I think it’s down to VDM, Lundt, and CVPG…gotta say I’d probably go with the rookie Lundt and hope they can put the other two on the PS. VDM filled in well at tackle but that’s the only position he plays, and CVPG has missed all of camp. Thoughts?

Those were fun to watch. To this day I have no idea how Josh got that ball out vs. Jacksonville. At that moment I “knew” we had our guy.

An 11-year-old at the time, I now look back at the 1980 season as one of my favorites of all time. Ending the Fish streak, winning the division, and being a hair's breadth from beating SD and going to the AFCCG. It should have been the start of a mini-dynasty, but cheap Ralph wouldn't pay the coaching staff what they deserved and we had to wait for Polian to come along and fix it.

I wouldn’t typically just come into a thread to piss on it but this nonsense has gone four pages. Who the fack preps a big tailgate for preseason? Jesus.

I keep thinking about this and the whole thing pisses me off…what kind of person wants to watch another man have his dreams shattered on national TV?

That EJ dude’s red nose and cheeks suggest he partakes quite a bit as well…

I can’t believe these guys do this for all 32 teams. It’s an incredible amount of work. They take it seriously and it shows.

I’m not trying to demean Kelso — he was a good role player for those 90s squads.