Wayne Cubed

Watched all 4 last week, except the beginning of NO vs Seattle game. The others just weren't as exciting. Thought the best game to watch was the NO/Seattle game. And now to watch all 4 this week. Cheers.

He had 8 dropped passes this year, and was tied for the team lead with Stevie Johnson. But Stevie Johnson had almost 3 times the receptions that Freddie had. Consider this, with only having 31 receptions and 8 drops he dropped the ball about 25% of the time it was thrown to him.... not real good. Also, there isn't another RB in the top 25 in the league in drops besides Freddie. No need to rag on the guy for saying he thought Freddie dropped a lot of passes. I watched the games to and thought he dropped quite a few as well. The first throw of the season against the Dolphins, he dropped the pass.

Wow, I was thinking of starting a similar thread about how people have been saying it was Stevie's fault cause he drops soooooo many passes and that effects Fitz's completion percentage. Yet the stats show Stevie is about average for dropped passes in The League with one of the best receivers in the league there with him. Stevie J. - 8 dropped Andre Johnson - 7 dropped Reggie Wayne - 12 dropped Mike Williams - 7 dropped Brandon Marshall - 11 dropped Wes Welker - 13 dropped; led the league time to put that common thought here at TBD to bed. http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/leaders.asp?range=nfl&type=receiving&rank=232

Seriously this needs to stop. Stevie doesn't make nearly as many drops as people think. Not to mention how about the ones that are practically uncatchable that are caught by him. http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/leaders.asp?range=nfl&type=receiving&rank=232 Stevie is in the middle of the pack for elite NFL receivers.

Apparently It wasn't too hard for me to google them http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/leaders.asp?range=nfl&type=receiving&rank=232 Looks like Wes Welker lead the NFL. Yet Brady's completion percentage was still above Fitz's. In fact look Aaron Hernandez is on the list with 7. Thats 20 drops for Brady right there. Still about 65% completion Reggie Wayne is on the list with 12 as well, yet that didn't effect Peyton's completion % There are some great receivers on that list that are far ahead of Stevie. People honestly need to stop ragging on him for his dropped passes. In comparison to some ELITE receivers he seems to be just about on average with what they drop. And if you take away the 5 he had in one game, that makes his drops not seem nearly as bad. I know this may not be that accurate because this is not an official NFL stat, so take it for what its worth. Point is, drops happen in NFL games, even to ELITE NFL receivers and QBs, doesn't seem to effect there stats.

I thought he did an excellent job of keeping his streak of NFL games without a TD alive...

Technically speaking our offense today is mostly backups. But....... Our defense is our starting d, kinda sad we can't stop their back ups. 142 yards rushing against us.....

I, being from LA as well, posted similar to what tgregg posted about talk of an NFL team coming to LA in another post. It was almost identical to what tgregg has said. The biggest reason for the uptick in the stadium talk is that until recently The Coliseum was the only place for an NFL team to play. An NFL team would never move into the outdated stadium. But recently the owners of the Coliseum signed USC to a 10 year deal to play there, so they have pretty much stopped protesting a new stadium and NFL team. This gives way to private financing to a new stadium. One being an extension of the Staple and Nokia centers downtown. And the other being built 45 mins from downtown and built on privately owned land. Currently both stadium plans are on hiatus because of the NFL labor dispute.

First are you a GM? No, so why care.... Im pretty sure the GMs of these teams are fine. They play this game all the time with other free agents. You win some, you lose some. Its nothing to take personnal. Second, i would most certainly entertain other jobs if in the end its gonna get me the money i want and the place i want to be. Why is that so terrible? It happens all the time, in regular jobs too. Thats what negotiating a job contract is all about.

Um, maybe this is me, but when exactly did Cliff Lee string along fans of the Rangers and Yankees. If anything u should be getting mad at the media for stringing along the fans. Lee went about his business as a free agent just like any other free agent does. He never made a promise to any club, just looked over offers, and visited with possible employers. Again something anyone looking for a job would do. But the age we live in with blogs and sports shows etc., etc. reporting up to the minute information and following every single detail, people took opinions of sports writers and bloggers as fact. This got your hopes up only to be let down. When if you would have never heard about all this behind the scene business you probably wouldnt have cared about where Lee went. I think the same can be said for the Wade and Lebron situation. But alas, sports are entertainment. And these sports writers and analysts and shows are out to make money. What better way to do than create drama. Which obviously worked. Personally I applaud Cliff Lee. Baseball has become even less interesting because of teams that go out and buy world series. Not saying Philly isnt doing that, but its nice for a change that it isnt Boston or NY making all the big off season accuisitions.

Its funny, cause u dont even get to see the rest of the play. Vick runs back across the field, if Haynesworth would have gotten up, maybe he makes a play... instead Vick walks into the endzone. Absolutely sad and embarassing. Yet some people wanna blame Shanahan. Im sorry but his play and absolute lack of effort is what got him benched and ultimately suspended.

This was the play i talked about earlier. Im sure u think shanahan coached him to lay on the ground right? What a great first move for an such an "elite" level player. Funny i dont see williams having any trouble transitioning to NT. But yea lets all blame shanahan for the downfall of this elite player, makes perfect sense.<\sarcasm>

The guy is completely lazy. The Monday night game against the Eagles... it was clear as day that he had given up on a play where Vick scored. He made one move off the line and got knocked over. First mistake. Second, his fat butt was sat on the ground looking around to see if the play was over, when he saw it wasn't he did absolutely nothing. The reason it sticks out so much is because even the announcers commented on it as well. Said how bad it would look on tape. The play lasted something like 10-15 secs. It was pathetic. I can't believe people are even entertaining the thought that he could possibly help this team. No thanks.

+1 Funny I was watching the Indy game and I saw Reggie Wayne drop a pass that hit him right in the numbers.

Not to mention the blatant pass interference that Rice had on McKelvin to make that catch. No call there. Like its already been said, i don't think the refs lost the game but they definitely had some very suspect calls. Especially the no call on Stevie, when he was 5 yards out of bounds.

Did anybody else see it? It was a real good interview. Good to see the Bills getting some TV time.

Same kind of people who build the New Meadowlands stadium and don't own the Jets or Giants. Or the people who own University of Phoenix stadium and don't own the Cardinals. Just because you own an NFL does not mean you own the stadium. I wouldn't say i completely agree with that. The rams and raiders both left because of stadium issues and wanting a new one and LA basically saying the Coliseum was fine. So they bolted when they didn't get a new stadium, not because of the fan base. I think LA could and most likely will support an NFL team.

Thats a good question. It could have something to do with the people that own the Coliseum, who are completely against it, because they would want an NFL team there. Just recently they signed USC to play in the Coliseum for like 8 years or something, so maybe since they have a team locked in there they have given up fighting a new stadium being built. Also the former mayor and tax payers didn't want a new stadium being built for a NFL team and would have wanted them to play in the Coliseum. Which NFL team would want to leave a city for a crappy stadium, that wasn't even designed for football? None I would suspect. Basically the same thing that happened with the Lakers and finally moving to the Staple Center. With a new mayor that likes to spend money and add to that this rebirth of Downtown LA, they've added lots of venues like Staple Center, Nokia center, and I'd say thats where all this interest is finally coming from.

Bout a week or 2 ago on Channel 4 NBC, out here in Los Angeles, they did a segment on the NFL coming here. Talked to both prospective stadium builders. First guy was from AEG, the people who built the Staple center. He talked about how their plan for a stadium would be to put the stadium directly downtown, next to the Staple center, ripping out the old part of the convention center. Seemed like a really nice idea and completely feasible. The next guy, sorry can't remember his name, was the billionaire who wants to build a stadium 45 mins from LA out in a place called city of industry. He owns the land and did the interview on where he would plan to build the stadium. Guy seemed like a complete jerk btw. Then they interviewed a guy from the NFL who said they weren't looking to expand any teams, so there was no way LA could get an expansion team. Then they talked to the two builders about acquiring teams. The billionaire guy basically stated that he was gonna strong arm some teams to come out here by throwing money at them or buying them out and listed 6 teams he thought he could do this with, buffalo being one of them. Then they interviewed the AEG guy, who basically said he didn't want to take away a team from a strong fan base, he is from cleveland originally, and was there and witnessed both what happened in baltimore when they lost the colts and in cleveland when they lost the browns. Said he has absolutely no interest in doing that and would rather get a team and owner that wants to come out to LA and they wouldn't have to lure them out here. They seem to be targeting San Diego or San Francisco because of those cities not wanting to build them new stadiums and also keeping it a California based team. Billionaire guy is ahead of the AEG in terms of stadium development b/c he has gotten approval from the various agencies like EPA, city, etc. At the end of the segment, they ended up saying that both of these plans are completely on hold because no one wants to go forward with anything when the new CBA hasn't been figured out. Still it was a pretty interesting piece. I like the AEG proposal better and their plan better.

I wonder if these fines can be payed to charitys and therefore fall under the only pay 50% rule, if it goes to a charity. Then it would only be $75,000...

Great pics showing that hit, BTW. Its funny, but if Harrison would have wrapped up, lowered his shoulder, and put his head off to the side, it would have been a great hit still. And not to mention completely legal. I don't understand why players think lowering your shoulder can't do as much damage as a helmet. Not that damaging a player should be your goal, but a shoulder to the gut or chest area, hard enough, would certainly knock the wind out of someone. Not to mention by wrapping him up at the waist, you can get a little leverage and lift and drive to the ground. This can't be that hard to re-teach someone.

Not to nit pick, because i actually agree with the rule change, but i played pop warner up through high school. In pop warner it was always lower the head and wrap up taught by my coaches. When i got to high school, it was lead with ur head and go for the knock out blow taught by coaches. Maybe it was because it was legal or whatever, but leading with ur head was most certainly taught by our coaches and others. Makes me wonder with the rule change if high schools have adapted and changed.

It was crazy, if it wasn't for the hold, he might have had his FIRST nfl sack. Completely blew past the LT.

Seriously, it was one bad game. Time to get over it and move on. Not like we were playing for a playoff spot. But sure some of these posters want to act like we are, and run someone out of town. Look out, better not make any mistakes ever if you're playing for the Bills. Otherwise twobillsdrive will revolt and say how terrible, immature, etc you are.... and run you out of town.

I love Marecic... Guy is a beast. Plays iron man football. Makes me wonder, how much better he would be if he played just one way. I also like Skov at linebacker, but seeing as he's only a sophomore, he'll be around for a couple more years.