dayman

This board is reading too much into this nonsense, the majority of which is reported by local guys driving local clicks and being circulated by lazy national guys b/c it's Rex and thus the sexiest of all firings. There is absolutely nothing scandalous or hard to believe about the story we have been provided. They didn't specifically talk about firing or retaining Rex and were planning to do so after the season. Rex had enough of the fire and demanded some frank speaking from Pegs...Pegs knew he wasn't keeping him and had to level with him and fired him on the spot (I'm sure Rex said something along the lines of "if you know you are going to fire me now, please let me know"). It's VERY easy to believe that story given what I know about all three men...Whaley was sticking to the schedule and process and had not specifically advised on Rex's future (although certainly advised as to why he thought the Bills sucked), Rex pulled a move and said as a man he needed to know if Pegs knew...Pegs as a man listened to Rex and realized he knew and told him it was over. WHY IS THIS DISFUNCTIONAL? We were terrible this year and it was b/c of the defense. All of this makes absolute perfect sense.

There is no correct way. If I owned a team I would end up like Jerry Jones.

Call me crazy but I would like someone specifically qualified to oversee QB development. We don't need any more defensive guys running the show.

We know that the Pegulas hired Rex and Whaley likely disagreed. The Pegulas fired Rex without consulting Whaley. And Whaley is now in charge of coaches.

Stupid article. I would fire someone if they worked for me a published articles like that.

He gave (in so many words) the clearest answer we have been given yet that Rex was not his guy. He then clearly said Lynn was installed by the Pegulas based on Rex's recommendation. I assume, based on these two truths, that reports of Lynn being a shoe-in are misinformed. He also said, point blank, that it is an open search. Obviously he didn't say "I will not hire Anthony Lynn" but based on what we know it is safe to assume that if we do hire Lynn something went wrong in the search and we missed on 1 or more candidates we liked better.

How? The bottom line is he didn't fire or hire Rex, it's obvious the Pegs did, and now he's in charge moving forward.

Whaley didn't hire Rex. Whaley wouldn't have hired Rex. The Pegula's hired Rex. Rex reported to the Pegulas. The Pegulas fired Rex. The Pegulas have now instructed Whaley to hire the next coach of the team and he will do so (Pegulas will need to sign off of course, but they will sign the line for whoever Whaley picks this time). Pretty brutal presser where almost all the questions were about Whaley's job and what he does and doesn't do...but it's obvious he works for Terry and does whatever the hell Terry tells him to do! IDK what more the reporters in the room needed to hear lol. Granted, they did eventually push Whaley so far in the corner he had to just say "yes" when asked if he approved of the Rex hire ("yes, it was a Bills hire, so yes"), but it couldn't be more clear that it wasn't his hire and the next coach will be his hire. What is the one conclusion I can reach based on the only information I gained from that presser? Lynn is not likely to be our next HC.

Dareus is a giant sack of puss who isn't even that good.

Allow me to say them for Sammy: Dareus, Hughes, both Browns, whoever the hell plays safety for us at this point

Q: Tyrod do you know if you'll be back? Tyrod: No Q: Tyrod do you think you earned it? That you deserve to be back? Tyrod: Yes, but that's for management to decide. Q: Tyrod, do you suck? Tyrod: No. Q: Hey Tyrod, do you think the Bills will cut you? Tyrod: IDK ....damn...we missed a really great interview by him not talking to the press today

It's not really anyone's business but his. He can play again if he wants to play.

"We will sit back and evaluate the season as a whole"

Last I heard Pegs saved the franchise. Not sure how anyone can hate the man who lives in Buffalo.

Like it or not our team IS Shady & TT. Not just Shady--certainly not just TT. The only damn thing going is Shady and TT together. It's not the best, but it will make the playoffs if we get a good season out of a coach and stay relatively healthy (ahem, Sammy).

This I truly believe. It makes no sense for Whaley to cut Tyrod. Whaley has to win now. A new GM would come in and start over...Pegs didn't bring a new GM b/c he's not ready to do that yet.

I think you are probably right, but you don't have to be. It is entirely possible Whaley sits back, evaluates everything together with a mind toward next year and keeps him. Sitting him today was guaranteeing the option to cut him, not actually making the choice to cut him.

Just think about that for a little bit. Sure, you can claim the guys didn't play hard or mailed it in--but that isn't what it looked like to me. What I saw was defense that couldn't hang on the entire game and an offense that never got anything going. In fact, if you listen to Lynn's postgame and read between the lines he basically told you as much (pretty good defense, we couldn't do anything, defense couldn't hold on...the only thing he didn't say is we might have gotten something going and changed the game w/ Tyrod in there). Honor the contract. It's complete absurdity to think we can get better by cutting him. We aren't in blow up mode (we aren't built for that either...it would be a 4 year project starting now to do that). This is an easy decision. Why am I wrong? We should all be hopeful for a good draft, a tiny bit of FA help, and some new coaching to break the streak next year with substantially the same roster. That is clearly our best hope--we are a decent football team.

Tyrod: "You know amazon prime gets you access to videos? Like...same thing as Netflix basically." Lynn: " ... "

Lynn is the most overrated candidate I can remember. Don't get me wrong, he's done a pretty good job as OC--but the dude started the season as an RB coach for Rex and now the best teams/franchises in football are dying to have him run the whole show?

Right now getting blown out in a wildcard game would be absolutely amazing. The bottom line is our next step--our first step in almost 20 years--is to lose a wildcard game. I can't wait until we do, then I start talking about how to win one, and then...how to win out. The simple truth is you need something root for and when you don't even make the playoffs you have completely and utterly failed. We need a season that we can look back on that makes us also look forward. Nobody has really ever looked forward to December games in July....you have to make the playoffs to do that.

The hard truth is we just didn't have the players. They aren't smart enough, hard working enough, or (frankly) good enough to do what Rex was asking them to do. IDK why I feel this way, but I still believe that Rex has the chops to be lights on defense if he has the players, but he needs the players to be exactly right. That's a problem. It's also a problem that the execution of his own scheme is a problem for him (10 men on the field, late calls, confusion, etc.).

I agree that we were a few plays away from making the playoffs. If we can stay reasonably healthy, replace Aaron Williams, add a new WR2 that can play, and upgrade LBs we will make the playoffs next year. Tyrod is average at best but he's our best shot to break the streak. Go Bills! I still think we make the playoffs with this line-up...and that is the main credit I give to Doug Whaley.

What Dareus said is exactly what we all know from watching. They're were doing way too much. Guys running the field late, guys checking all the time and missing checks, guys with backs to the ball not knowing what they are doing. It was too complicated. It sucked.

​Whaley leading the search mean, in all likelihood, that it'll be Lynn or someone like Lynn (a first time HC). If we were going after a big dog they would not want to report to Whaley.