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There's no reason we need to run an offense that doesn't work with our personnel this season. We should be running more option and more downhill stuff. Stretch plays to the outside for a loss of 2 have nothing to do with having a good offense in 2 years.

collegiate spread principles are obviously great .... there is no reason not run them unless you can bully the other team ... obviously ... in a competitive free agent landscape you can't count on always being the bully... ...oh and I guess if you have Tom Brady you don't need it...but again...not too reliable of a strategy (to just always have Tom Brady)

I like a drink as much as the next man, and the next man is Mel Gibson. -Ricky Gervais introducing Mel Gibson at the Golden Globes

5 losing seasons for a ring? Maybe. 5 losing seasons for a 10 win playoff blowout? Probably now. The streak consumes Bills fans...but breaking the streak buys not time...not like a SB ring would. Nothing going on has any bearing on our situation, we aren't winning the SB and we aren't stopping the tear down.

1. What do we expect this year? Our floor is probably 6 wins, our ceiling probably 11. We're likely to end up between 7 and 9 wins and miss the playoffs. If we make it, we aren't going anywhere. 2. Offense? The reason we definitely aren't going anywhere is b/c our offense needs a complete and immediate rebuild. QB, WR, OL, all need serious help (and for this year now we have what looks like a serious Clay injury). Plus, medium-term, the only RB worth a damn is old. We're looking at 7ish positions that need replacement in the immediate future. If we were forecasting 2 years from now you would expect at least 2 of our top 3 WRs to be guys not on the roster, the starting QB to be a QB not on the roster, our starting RB to be a guy not on the roster, and 3 OLmen to be guys not on the roster. 3. Defense? Our defense is, once again, a pleasure to watch--but slightly overrated in my judgment. The DL is hot and cold, the LBs are weakish, and the secondary has no depth. We're good here for now, and it is a great look for coaches, but a few "back to earth" games are coming eventually. Plus, they're old...the oldest defense in the league (so I've heard...have not verified but we all know they're pretty old). Forecasting 2 years from now...you're looking at 2 new DTs, all new LBs, and depth sprinkled in throughout. 4. Realistic situational analysis: We're not going anywhere this year, and we're not going anywhere until we replace ~13 starters. Tyrod is gone, period. I actually kind of like Tyrod and think he's about average, but he won't work here if for no other reason than timing in terms of his skills, age, and our organizational development. Shady is too old to be apart of whatever our (best case scenario) near-future winning team will be...same is true of other old guys (including Incognito). Obviously, Dareus won't be apart of that either. So what should we do? Well, right now we're 3-2. If the playoffs started now we would be the #2 seed. Therefore, for now, of course we can't do anything other than hope and pray the offense somehow gets better and we get lucky enough to win 10 games. We owe ourselves a shot to see what happens. But, if we drop a few (just a few) and continue to look terrible on offense...we need to bench Tyrod quick and let the rookie take some snaps. If that doesn't look like some miracle answer for us this year (which of course it won't), we need to try to trade some our of our old guys for willing takers before the deadline this year (Tyrod, Shady, Kyle Williams, Dareus, Alexander, Incognito, etc.). It really doesn't even matter if we end up getting 6th/7th round picks for some of these guys. Hell, Dareus should probably be cut for nothing so we can eat whatever the fallout is as soon as possible. Long story short, we need our "tank" leash to be super, super short. No matter what, even if we can make the playoffs somehow this year, we need a total overhaul. We do not have the foundation we need in place to build right now...and messing around is ok so long as we may be able to eek out a streak break is fine...but other than that...whatever we started doing this offseason needs to continue. Keep tearing down. Keep starting young guys, switching up depth chart, and test random stuff. Get rid of guys that can't work medium-long term now...even if it nets only late round draft picks. Keep tearing it down...and don't be afraid to do so if we're 5-5. Unless we stay on track to be at the actual top...tear it down.

That's a hell of a way to put into perspective how long and hard the upcoming fall will be.

That hit was obviously dirty

btw Zay Jones is a bust...time to admit this guy is not likely to get good...he'll be lucky to end up a Goodwin-level player when its all said and done

We have no weapons in the passing game, Tyrod sucks, and we can't run the ball. /season

Good for him he's grown out of it...not good for Buffalo and sucks he's gone but it's easy enough to understand. Everyone put a lot of pressure on him to be great and you literally have no chance if you aren't getting the ball...and we aren't exactly a great passing team anyway. He needed to live up to that draft cost and expectations and grow/learn and he was haggered by injury and getting way less opportunities than say...Odell...even when healthy. At least he can acknowledge that he didn't handle it great. I can acknowledge I get what he was probably feeling.

Rain favors the offense so I don't particularly see it helping us. Makes it harder to drive on the ball or pop off the DLline...offense knows where they are going and OL benefit when defenders can't cut/explode as easily.

The secondary is the most shocking. I figured our front 4 would be good in a simplified 4-3 and our backers would be ok...but the all new look in the backfield has been completely surprising and the highlight of the year so far. Great coaching and management to get these guys in here, prepared, and playing awesome.

IMO this isn't the year we make the break through (even if we might make a wildcard), but we are building up strong with talented, young, cheap players that are buying in and fitting to the culture/scheme. If we are doing fine in spots without Glenn (which we are) we should go ahead and move him if we can get at least a 2 for him. It'll save money and further stack our ridiculous draft for next year. I would also move him for a good young WR if that was possible. Now if we end up with a 4th it would be disaster. Generally speaking, I think we "cut smart" and accumulate money and picks...our 3-1 record is nice but it doesn't change who we are/where we are/what we are doing. We are rebuilding. We do need a new QB, at least 2 new WRs, new DTs, and new LBs. We can grab Oline depth as well.

Everyone on planet earth knows EJ's weaknesses. He can't really run, can't throw accurately, and doesn't get rid of the ball. These are obvious to all.

If it were our job to focus on preparing to play Cinci I would agree but we're all just kind sitting on the coach with our laptops so...I think it'll be ok if we do this now.

Right, and that's basically the point of this thread. You take that...then you look at: -home v. EJ Manuel -home v. average at best Saints that typically suck on the road -at an 0-4 Chargers team in meltdown mode -home v. a 1-3 Colts team that's only win was barely beating the Browns I can find 3 in those 4 right there pretty easily. Take all 4 and we buy some breathing room to drop one against a Cinci/Jets/Phins matchup. My only point is...given that we beat the Broncos and ATL our schedule is flipping and there's reasonably wiggle room to get to 10 wins without even beating anyone good moving forward.

Like I said, any given Sunday...but looking ahead a little is ok. Cinci has real problems...and Derek Carr is going to be out a while. We can easily run this 5-2 and roll into Jets/Saints/Chargers suck fest that could stretch it to 7 or 8 wins real quick...do that and you're looking at 2 juicy December games versus a Dolphins squad that has given up by then and whala!!! 9 or 10 wins. Just like that without really beating any good teams from here on out.

Any given Sunday of course...but lets take a look and be fairly conservative: v. NYJ (W) @CAR (L) v. DEN (W) @ATL (W) Nice Start to the season, we're 3-1 who would have thought! Now ... moving forward: @CIN (W) v. Bucs (L) v. OAK (L) @NYJ (W) v. NO (W) @LAC (W) @KC (L) v. NE (L) v. Indy (W) v. MIA (W) @NE (L) @MIA (W) Gave us an L to every team that is likely to beat us and took the W for every team that basically sucks. On top that ... I think we could easily take 1 of those back to back games at home v. Bucs and Oak (Carr is hurt now so we play EJ)...we may split with the Pats given their issues...those possibilities give us the flexibility to drop two games to crap...if the Chargers and Indy somehow beat us (just randomly picking them based on having the best QBs of the bad teams we play assuming Luck is back). That said...Miami will have likely given up by December...Indy will probably be in tank mode (that franchise is known to tank if it's a lost season)...the Jets are hopeless...Cinci is as bad as advertised (forget about a beating against the Browns it means nothing)...we should kill the Saints we are a matchup nightmare for them... Lost of ways to look at it but 10 wins looks entirely possible. 9 looks almost likely unless we melt down...this is the wonder of having beaten Denver and Atlanta...what started off as real tough schedule is lightening up now as we look forward.

We were insanely lucky not to lose it there at the end honestly...but hell...we pulled it out baby!! ATL mostly threw the game away at the end (literally throwing the game away on those last 2 plays). But I'll take it.

Wait and see, want to believe but will be skeptical until we get a good QB (b/c after all, that's what it's all about)

Listening now...fairly complementary of the team so not sure what the point is of this topic.

Btw if we win we should all freak out, great start Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

Dough boy needs to have a monster game .... if he remembers how to do such a thing. Dough it up!

Hope we play great and win, but if we get stomped lets cool it afterwords. If we get down early and Tyrod has to sling it, it could get ugly and Tyrod could look bad and we could lose by quite a bit...that **** happens when you are on the road at ATL they're really really good. So, early in the season when we are finding identity under new coach, playing the best team in the NFC (maybe in the league), on the road. Go Bills. Lets cool it if things go bad ... the worst that can happen is we're 2-2 after a pretty tough opening string of games.

So if we cut him the day the new league year starts it's basically 1 year salary for a top (but not elite) player in a good contract year at a position that pays....then we're done. He's gone. It'll hurt but it's going to happen.