Green Lightning

Good post and food for thought. We sure need talent on the D side and I'm not sold on our DC. But I'd still rather be a 3-4 team. Nanker sees it that way as well and you may be right. As I said I liked Perry but whoever made the call on players I really tired of that defense.

Troup, Howard, D. Bell, Moats even Coleman all played significant time. These young guys are our future and it was great to see them hold their own. Fitzy looks better every week. I, for one want to see how the season plus out before declaring what our number 1 pick should be.

Apples and oranges. Most of those teams had better talent than we have and some tanked after they showed some improvement. Every situation is different and on our case we will slide before improving. We need to show steady improvement toasted the goal of competing for a title. What don't you get about how little talent the FO inherited?

Yeah Thoner he really sucked. Fitzy made him look good like Manning & Brady make their OL's look good. C'mon an undrafted rook makes his first NFL start at RT against the Ravens and his number is never called and no true sacks allowed. I'll take that kind of crap play every week!

Jeez Ice I thought you'd be happy after the demise of Trent and now you have Fitzy in your sights? Let the guy play before pronouncing him dead. I'm not saying he's the answer but he's playing well and this season is about seeing what we have to build with.

I liked Perry, but hated the little fast defense. You could always count on them to fold in the 4th and never get off the field on third and long. It will take awhile to get this defense up to par but I couldn't see our past D making a stop in OT. We need big, strong and fast and frankly when we get better talent we'll be a defense that will out do Perry's.

Hang in there SoCal. Hopefully you can find something to cheer for again here in B-LO. As for me, I'm glad I have a life and a NFL team. Being a Bills fan is not for the faint of heart but it sure beats the alternative!

Yeah, and stayed the same or worse every season after that. That's NOT how to rebuild. Lose the crap and we are. Today the team played it's heart out and lost in overtime. That lesson will help all the young guys who played. The crap OL did'nt do badly at all and they almost all second the third year players. So crap on the FO all you want. I will look for signs of growth with young talent. We saw some today. Okay, cue the naysayers and the wailing wall of trolls. Have at it. Hey Junior, watch the game today?

Because the hand-wringers just can't help repeating tbemselves. They think if they say it louder and often it will make more sense. Never does. We're in year one of a rebuild and it ain't pretty. Just deal with it.

Never been through a rebuild have you? When you cut vets and changeover systems you take a few steps back before you improve . What don't you get here? We were a bad team that is being dismantled to build with new drafted players and some FAs. If you can't handle it - move on junior.

Never bought into reading comprehension did we? Nobody is happy right now. But it is year one of a rebuild. So I find you death spiral and sky-is-falling tantrums laughable. Look, I'll say it again... Read closely. The FO ia not going anywhere for the next few years. They will be the ones calling the shots. DEAL with it. Even if you were 100% right - which you're not- it won't change the reality I just laid out. So whatcha gonna do junior- a primal scream thread weekly? This team will get better but it won't be soon.

It's time for a QB. Burn a #1 or trade a #1 and get one. Need LB's and a RT after that.

You had me all the way to you got to Vick. I don't want that dog butchering bastard on my team. Good to go on the rest of your post. Lines and QB's are where good teams invest.

And as I wrote, you're not going to get a different FO than the one we have for years. So why shout at the shore trying to turn back the tide? Again, learn to deal with it and see that it may not all be doom and gloom. I don't care who they brought in as GM or coach, this team was going to suck this year. All I'm saying is you can scream and cry every week for the next 11 weeks or you can live in the moment and understand where we are and find some joy in the rebuilding. You're choice, your ulcer.

Christ! Between Enuf, Vet and Darth we all should be ovulating. Quite the little downward spiral of woe and anquish! You know boys,we suck, the world knows it and it's irresistible for media to pile on. But if you guys have a better plan than to purge the crap we've accumulated and build anew, please enlighten the rest of the board. You guys are living in the past and the past ain't pretty. You didn't get any of the mythological GM's and coaches you wanted. Boo frickety-hoo. So you got some choices: Root for the Pats or whomever, rage against the machine with these pity-party threads or strap in for the rebuild Buddy-style. You have to pick it....it aint' going to change you you all have only so much stomach lining to burn.

Got another plan?

Dumbass

Half of TSW

Okay then, WVU post away and the rest of us rubes will strive to do a better job with our sarcasm detection and to better memorize the the truly insightful posters as opposed to the rest of the great unwashed here on TSW. (Gosh, this sarcasm thing is really tricky...in fact - it's hard to do sarcasm on TSW!)

Really? Then he should stick to insightful football posts because he can't do sarcasm for sh*t.

I'm not an apologist for anybody and for the record I never said Davis sucked. So don't paint me with your wide brush of discontent. But as long as we are at it. Davis isn't looking none too good but that's okay because he's a high pick? What if Cordero keeps pace with Davis? He won't count because he's a walk on? And why the Hell would you draft a RT in the 1st Round anyway? Look, my point is you can spend your life looking backwards or forwards. I'm looking ahead and you are still mired in April of 2010 and in the past several years. It's no longer relevant, what we do now is. Play Cordero - Carrington, Troup, Coleman, Moats, Nelson, Urbik, Wang and let's see what we got. Get you head out of the past brother and let's move on.

Yawn, we are all sitting here 0-5 and dreaming of better days. But I keep saying, don't confuse activity with progress. They could have made a bunch of moves to appease the ranters, but in the big picture, they are following their plan. Build throught the draft and modest free agent additions (ala Dwan Edwards, etc) and get better. I've found some peace accepting that. My rant will come if they draft poorly. Draft another Maybin and I'll join the OP. Now let's use the rest of this year to see how the current draft picks and signee's by Nix and Chan play. I want to see Coleman and Moats, CJ, Wang, Urbik, Howard and the rest play. We are 0-5 with the vets, let's see what the kids can do. So my suggestion to the OP is either accept where we are or burn up a few layers of stomach lining in the weeks ahead.

Yes, but do you respect us?

I'm with Thoner on this. Bell is developing very well. He plays in space and against speed rushers as well as anyone I've seen this year. He needs some strength and to not take stupid penalities. But having a guy that can play on the island is something you can't coach up...D. Bell has the talent and is getting the playing time to refine it. I think he's doing fine right now. Draft a RT for sure. I don't think we need to burn a #1 on an LT.

Wow, the OP is already writhing the the kid hasn't yet to play. Let's see what he's got. Green sucks. I'd rather stink with a young player who has upside and can grow into the role or into a good depth player. I'm hoping Chan puts Wood at center and plays Wang, Wrotto or Urbik at guard. Let's start playing our young guys and they will get bettter.