OldTimer1960

Might Crowder return? He has shown that he can play and be productive- injury derailed last season. He has played a number of seasons, but think he is younger than Beasley.

Just look at Milano and then look at Bernard. Milano looks much more muscular.

1. Dorsey is coming back because Allen has trust in him 2. Dorsey is coming back because if you replace him it will either be a retread or a newbie 3. He is coming back because the team doesn’t need to completely change their successful offensive scheme and changing it is almost surely a regression. 4. With as poor as the OL was and the obvious struggles of Davis and McKenzie, who do you think would have done better? Players matter and they need better play on the OL to enable some plays that are just off the table with the problems the OL presents. Yes, they also need to do better at WR 2 & 3. I suggest that Rousseau is working his way there and they were picking late in each round in 21 and 22.

I haven’t watched a ton of Rice, but I have watched a full game against UCF and he had a really bad drop on a 3rd down, right in his numbers and it went right to the ground. Every receiver has drops, but that was a bad one. I’m not dismissing him as a prospect, but he is definitely not completely clean and he isn’t getting a ton of separation on mid-level routes.

There isn’t going to be any big FA signings

I think Bernard may be just too small, but so was Milano and he is pretty jacked now.

I think 13-3 with an injury decimated secondary, losing Von Miller, injuries to DTs, Dawson Knox brother dying, Spencer Brown playing with little offseason training, 2 blizzards- one costing a home game the other causing travel problems and finally Damar Hamlin’s heart stopping on the field is pretty respectable. And the division competition is all pretty good, too.

Me too, but I don’t think there is any chance of that. I don’t think there is a WR as good as either of those two this year and Bills can’t afford to trade their picks and still get help for OL and S.

So, who is that 1B going to be in the draft? They will be picking among consolation prizes at WR at end of round 1. Can they find a good one there? Maybe…

I don’t think it’s fair to assume that they didn’t know that Davis might not progress. There are only limited number of draft picks and very limited money for other issues. Beyond the above, I don’t think it would have been unreasonable to think Davis was improving after the KC playoff game. It hasn’t materialized clearly, but he played really well that game.

I wish I knew why Davis has so much trouble with drops. I think we’ve seen him make some great catches, especially along the sideline, but there are too many drops to consider him reliable at this point.

Thank you for such a large amount of effort. You really know your draft stuff, kind sir! Question: would you have considered Matthew Bergeron in round 2? Idea being that if Spencer Brown doesn’t pan out, Bergeron could play there and if Brown is up to the RT job, put Bergeron at one guard spot.

Why not take Bergeron in the 2nd over Vorheese? Bergeron would give them insurance at RT in case Spencer Brown doesn’t improve and, I would think, he could play guard if Brown improves. If Anthony Richardson is still available, someone might want to move up from 2nd round for him. Other than that, I can’t see much hope for anyone else available that a team would trade up for. As many here, I would not be very excited about Rashee Rice in round 1. He does have good hands and is pretty good at contested catches, but can he get open in the NFL? I’m not sure what his combine 40 will tell us, but I don’t think he is going to win many battles on speed or quickness. He seems to have had a pretty quiet week at the Senior Bowl.

It used to be that there were only a few outstanding QBs, but today there are many more. The Bills are in a group of teams that have great QBs, any one of which could win the SB. While we all watched Brady dominate thinking if only we could get a great QB, we would win, it turns out just having a great QB isn’t enough.

Screens and draw plays as well. I suspect that the lack of screens may be related to the OL struggling to block in the open field.

It is a fair question. All that I am arguing is that there were mitigating circumstances. I do think all of the above played into it. McCaffrey got a lot of carries and I speculate that taking handoffs takes less familiarity with the O than does getting into pass routes. Fair to question the coaching decisions on that.

Not a complete excuse, but 1. coming to a new team mid-season meant that he had to learn a whole new offense and develop relationships with his new teammates 2. He was also playing Special Teams which drew some of his attention away from learning the new offense 3. The OL was really struggling so RBs needed to be held in to block more often than usual 4. Singletary and Cook were both playing well ahead of him Do you really think that they purposely drafted Cook and traded for Hines, both pass catching backs, and then forgot about using them? I think more likely, circumstances like the above made incorporating the backs into the passing game difficult. Specifically regarding Hines, imagine starting a new job at a different company. Do you think you will understand everything and perform all roles immediately?

They were 13-3 in a season where the secondary was decimated by injuries, they went through two major blizzards and lost a home game because of that and had a teammate nearly die on the field. I cannot even imagine what that must have been like. They lost to a very good Bengals team and lost badly, but I think part of that was mental exhaustion from the Hamlin injury and having to struggle so hard throughout the year. Yes, outside of the above the team has weaknesses and I am confident that they will try to address them within the constraints of the cap and picking late in every round of the draft. I think they will try to give Allen more weapons to work with - I am sure that is what they were trying to do by acquiring Cook, Hines and Crowder. They may have overestimated Gabe Davis and McKenzie and underestimated the poor state of the OL, but I believe they tried.

It is very hard to win championships and that involves some level of luck (avoidance of bad breaks, injuries, bad calls, etc). Every team should strive to win a championship, but really all any organization can do is put together the best possible team they can and compete. Having the most talented team or the best coach is often not enough. Some (much?) of the disappointment in the Bills this year is related to the false belief that they clearly had more talent than any other team and therefore, it must be that someone f*cked up because they failed to win it all. I believe that the Bills are currently in the top group of organizations in terms of how well they are run. Are they perfect? Of course not, but neither is any other team. I think it would be a major mistake to get rid of Brandon Beane or Sean McDermott. The Bills are competing at the level of the very top teams right now.

I’m not trying to be argumentative, but what assets would he trade to move up, say 20 spots in round 2? I would not want to trade our 2nd and 3rd to move up in the second. Maybe they trade Oliver, but I don’t think you’ll get a high 2nd rounder for him given he is due a new contract soon. What I am suggesting is that it might not be easy to address OL in the late 2nd, so that makes Robinson an ill-advised luxury pick, in my opinion. That doesn’t mean that I am certain to be right - just how I see it.

How will you get Darnell Wright and Bijon Robinson in the draft. I would be very surprised if Wright makes it past early-mid 2nd.

I’m just noting that in 5 years, they will have a hole whereas selection of a good OL leaves the possibility that he is still with your team and performing well for maybe 3-4 more years. Additionally, picking Robinson with this OL will dilute his value/production until they can fix the line. The Eagles are not a great running team because Miles Sanders is the best RB in the league, it is because they have a really good OL and weapons in the passing game that spread defenses thin. I am wholeheartedly on board with Bills improving their run game, I just think that is better and more sustainably done through a good OL and other weapons to threaten a defense than through picking an Uber-talented runner and dumping him behind a weak OL with only 1 NFL starting caliber WR.

Slot is where Boutte played a lot, too. I agree Downs’ size really limits him to that and Boutte at least has decent size to play out wide, but not sure he did it much.

If the talent lines up with our picks, remember the Bills’ 2nd round pick is only a few picks from being top of 3rd round and their 3rd is nearly a 4th rounder. All things being equal, I’d hope for 2 good OL in this draft. One more OL isn’t going to fix that group. I agree that WR is a big need. If they go that way, I’d look at Josh Downs before Boutte. Rice might be ok.

He is good, no doubt. I don’t think he would be nearly as good behind a poor OL in an offense that only runs the ball occasionally. RBs really don’t generally have long careers, so if you draft one you figure he is on your team four only 4-5 years. A good OL can play much longer.