OldTimer1960

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I don't think that would be enough to get to 10.

I wouldn't be opposed to that, but I fear that they'll need to trade up even to get Rudolph. My guess, uneducated at the moment, is that if they sit tight the only name QB available may be Lamar Jackson. I don't know what they think of him, but I'm not sure what to make of him. He has a strong arm and makes some throws that are NFL caliber, but he misses badly on others and is very quick to bail and run - now, for sure he is great at running.

I would be on board with trade downs and even trade ups in the 2nd and later to get guys they really like. I just can't see trading a lot to move up in round 1 unless it is t get the QB that they like. At the moment, I'd be willing to give up a 1 & 2 to move up some for the QB that they like, but I think getting high enough to get one of the top 3 will be too pricey and who know if they will pan out anyway. None of them strike me as can't miss guys. If they can't get a QB that they really like, I would even consider trading one of the 1sts for a 1st next year and a later pick this year. There is no point to taking a QB in round 1, if they aren't pretty sold on him.

I hope that you are right about re-signing Gaines. I originally thought he was just a throw-in in the Watkin's trade, but he is a good CB.

Unless it is to get a QB, it would take a lot to justify trading up in the draft this year.

I would not be surprised with a step-back in 18. They greatly overachieved this year given the talent level on the roster. Save for a ton of turnovers created early in the season by the defense, this could have been a 6-10 team.

I am with you - Glenn can be a dominating run blocker and is a good pass blocker, if healthy. If he is healthy, the OL would be MUCH better with him than without him.

But if Dawkins is playing LT, he is cheap for a starting LT

Agreed.

I can agree with that. I wasn’t arguing that the Bills need to keep him, but he is a good productive starting NFL WR, at least in my opinion.

I think that would be a great move for the Browns. They are like the Rams what laid dormant stockpiling talent and then it just all came together at once

250 catches for 2955 yards and 20 TDs in his first 3 seasons says he doesn’t suck. No need to repeat that he was “4th on the Eagles depth chart”, you made your point - I disagree.

I think that if they traded a 1st and 2nd to move up a bit to take Rudolph or Jackson and that player eventually was as good as Cousins, they would consider that a success. Trading a lot to move up high to take Darnold, Rosen or Mayfield, gives them a shot at someone who *might* be better than Cousins, is still unlikely to be Brady/Rogers/Brees level and carries significant risk that the guy won't even be as good as Cousins. On the one hand, a rookie gives you 5 years of comparatively low salary at QB, so you can spend elsewhere. On the other hand, there is bust potential and likely loss of a lot of draft picks due to a trade up likely being required. if the bar is that Cousins isn't good enough, then the only route is a major trade up, because Rudolph and Jackson will be lucky to be as good as Cousins.

I think passing on a solid QB option because you are always looking for Brady/Rogers/Brees is a mistake. Those guys are certain Hall of Famers and are better than most of the QBs in the Hall. Good perspective.

And injuries: Mathews, Benjamin and Jones were all playing hurt much of the time.

I don't think any team converted more than 45% of their 3rd downs and only 10 teams averaged at least 24 points per game. I think item 1 on your list is a fairly big ask. Agree with 2 and 3, but I don't think Hurst is going to push the pocket - he is very small for a DT and would rely on quickness rather than power. He is also likely to be a liability in run defense. I agree that LB is a big need, but I don't think you'll see Roquan Smith available and I would be surprised if they pick a LB before round 3 (not that I am saying they shouldn't)

Agreed - The likelihood of getting even out to the 25 was low (at least for the Bills) and they run the risk of a hold or clip pinning them deep. If reasonable, I'd like to see them keep: EJ Gaines- defense was much better when he played Preston Brown - a solid veteran whom you'd need to replace if he left. His replacement is probably not on the current roster. Jordan Mathews - I know a lot will flame this, but he proved that he is a good NFL WR in his 3 years in Philly: 67, 85, 73 receptions in his 3 years there. Kyle Williams - As long as he wants to play Seantrel Henderson - If he has his bowel disease under control and doesn't get suspended, he has talent Leonard Johnson and Shareece Wright - good veteran depth and shouldn't be terribly expensive. Cedric Thornton - decent for a DT rotation. Can't replace all the DTs in one offseason. Deonte Thompson - showed enough to warrant coming to camp but should face competition from a speed receiver by way of the draft or Free Agency Nick O'Leary - definitely want to keep him. He showed quite a bit this year (in my opinion)

Oyy - that is RIDICULOUS. I am not the biggest Wilson fan, but he is twice the passer that Taylor is (at least).

That seems pretty reasonable to me. I like Smith as one of the best available vets for a rookie to learn from. Next in line would be Bradford followed by Josh McCown. i don’t think any available vet QBs are viable long-term answers, with the exception of Cousins (whom I think will be more expensive than is prudent). I have no problem trading 21 and a 2nd to move to the teens if they see a QB still available that they like. That is best-case for me. If that doesn’t happen, I wouldn’t be opposed to trading 21 or 22 for a 2nd and #1 on 2019. That gives the ability to fill lots of holes this year while still having ammo for next year to move up for a QB. Worst scenario is to trade up for a QB who they are not really sold on.

I did not mean to imply that anyone was lying or making things up.

I'm there with you at this point. My opinion may change as I watch more and read more I believe that they would make a trade up, but I find it a bit hard to believe that Beane and McDermott would be sharing any information like that with the players.

They have a 29 year old feature back with many years of wear and tear and nobody behind him. I’m not really aligned with your plan.

You misunderstood my post. I DO think that is a mitigating factor. I was trying to argue for some patience with Jones (see post just above)

Uh, OK. I get it - “ someone must be responsible for this travesty”