Rob's House

My advice is to learn from this and move on with your life. Ted Wells and the NFL told you what your inner bullied child wanted to hear and you bought it. Now you're still living in denial about being duped. That's not healthy.

He's got the talent, but I'm not so sure he's got the mentality. I'd want to see a longer period of sustained maturity before giving him an opportunity.

There's a big difference between saying a guy has a tendency to act inappropriately and saying he systematically and intentionally bullied someone to the point of breaking them down. We as people have the intellectual capacity to differentiate degrees of wrongdoing. This is pathetic.

The trainer thing was bull **** too. I remember a teammatewho was pissed off at that report because he said those things might have been said but it wasn't the way it was portrayed. Guys !@#$ with their friends, and immature, high-testosterone meatheads sometimes take it further than normal. Given the support of his teammates, no one taking up for Martin, Martin giving it back, and what we now know about Martin, it seems pretty clear that they thought Martin knew they were just busting his balls and Martin was fronting like he was in on the joke while secretly melting down inside until he snapped.

That's the exact point. They're free to speak their minds and protest however and whenever they want (as long as it's for politically correct causes) anywhere and everywhere they want except at work. It's been stated over and over. I don't think you people are truly dumb enough to miss the distinction, nor do I think you give a brown **** about the principle you're purporting to support. I think the only principle you're supporting is the right to impose YOUR point of view on people who don't want to hear it.

Upon seeing the title I hoped the OP would be some non-sensical, sarcastic hodge podge of strawmen, half-truths, and false equivalencies, packed full of moral outrage and light on anything vaguely resembling a rational reality-based thought. I wasn't disappointed.

I feel vindicated when these J-Mart stories come out. I was one of the first to call bull **** on the bully story and took God knows how much flack for it. People were super pissed off declaring Incognito the scum of the earth and holding Martin up as both a victim and courageous survivor. Turns out they were all full of ****. The moral of the story is that knee-jerk, easily outraged manginas who see the world comprised of victims and victimizers are almost always wrong.

I've heard of him. Git er done.

If we kill off all the drug traffickers how are we going to get blow?

But if we do the transition tag the other team doesn't just get him for one year. They can sign him to a multi-year deal and we get the draft picks.

That scene in Shawshank when the guards beat Boggs into a vegetable always gives me a warm fuzzy feeling.

So basically you'd rather let him walk and get nothing than tag him and get 2 first round picks.

Nate Peterman The season may or may not go well, but the board will be interesting.

If we wait til next year to tag him we won't get the 2 first round picks until then. We want them now.

It's hard to argue with a Lombardi trophy.

I've heard of him. Git er done.

I wasn't sure it was possible, but it appears McCoy is both the best and the most overrated player on the team simultaneously. Not that the Eagles would consider it (which says a lot) but if this were an option the ONLY question is what do you think of Foles. If you think Foles can be the answer at QB you take the deal in a second. No one with any sense is going to take a 30 year old RB on his last legs over a potential franchise QB in his prime.

What happened here is awful regardless of outcome. The fact that people think it's appropriate for an employer to delve into one's personal life on this level is deeply disturbing. What's next? Do we need to investigate coaches to see if they spend enough time with their kids? Maybe they should open an investigation into how much of that time is quality time. We certainly need more info on his disciplinary philosophy. I do think the guys who defend this crap are emasculated pussies parading their weakness as strength, but it's not just that. I also think they're scum. The extent to which they are happy to make others suffer in a self-serving attempt to deflect their own insecurities and bolster their own image is sickening.

I think he's right up there with Guise Derrius.

QB: Brett Favre. In the mid-90s, before the emergence of Manning and Brady, he had no peers. He was NFL MVP for 3 years running. RB: Marshall Faulk. He was hands down the best RB in the league from 99-01. TE: Gronk. He's a scumbag, but he's been the most dangerous TE in football by a good margin over the last few years. WR: Sammy Watkins. He may not have the numbers, but no one plays decoy on his level. DE: JJ Watt. Prior to his injury he was arguably the best player in the NFL. DT: Ted Washington. He maybe wasn't the best all around DT of his time, but nobody clogged the middle of the line like he did. CB: Deion Sanders. The most feared CB of his time. S: Ed Reed.

I hate girls in pastels. Pass.

If it was a good value pick, sure. I always think the talk of "holes" on the roster is overblown. Most teams have a fair number of role players. Supposing we took QBs in the 1st and 4th, we'd still have a 1st, 2 2nds, a 3rd, and 2 5ths to draft position players. That's not bad. Based on last season, I'd imagine these guys could find decent mid-level FAs that fit the system to patch any remaining holes.

I believe it's guilty until proven innocent beyond the shadow of a doubt.

Even if proven "guilty" there's not much there. She didn't even accuse him of physical abuse. She basically accused him of being controlling and mean. If every guy whose ex levelled those accusations against him lost his job we'd eliminate half the male workforce. It takes a big dripping mangina of epic proportions to wax sanctimonious on this one.

I don't know why you're attacking me. I agree that people who think they can handle their buzz and can't shouldn't drink and drive. And can you really argue that the team would be better off dealing with this after the draft?