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the issue really is that once his cap hit goes up 50M, you lose 3-4 very good players around him. If you dropped him into Buffalo last year, he would’ve looked like a serviceable qb that got nowhere near the Super Bowl. That doesn’t mean he’s a bum or anything.

Until proven otherwise, he’s ahead of the guys like dak and cousins for sure. Ahead of tua. And behind those 4…. You mention. leaves him in the Herbert-Lamar range. strange to think how fast Russ Wilson plummeted out of these talks.

Great line, great weapons, and great results where he balances out? Still unknown. of the elite young guys… it’s hard to find one that’s had a tougher situation than Josh. All had stretches with the truly elite overindexing of talent around them while on the rookie deal.

until a car is broken down, or something bad happens, of course. it’s ok to condemn terrible behavior loudly and directly without thinking there’s no redeeming oneself

I’ll loudly agree a single mistake does not define a man we know very little of these guys and extrapolate a ton from small moments. oh, still dangerous, but at 140 his odds of something happening are higher. he has less control at that speed, less lead time to correct something, etc….

not actively dangerous to the public is a big miss on your part that said, still less risky than ruggs.

with fewer cost control years they’ll also all fall 2 rounds further, right? so the first rounders this year would be day 2 picks and if anything injury wise happened early in the career they could see less money overall in this plan

Yea, at this point he has to play. he should’ve pushed the issue for 1 year with no tag for year two publicly. That feels like the RB play for tags. Signing 2 year deal means he’s unlikely to get a mega contract ever, which is rough for a guy in his spot. The giants basically asked him to play under the tag twice at that pay. I can’t blame him for not racing to receive no substantial extra money, and no path to free agency they can’t even cave this year, he’s only allowed the tag now, right? and what would they offer next year that’s substantially different, a year older and with more animosity?

we may have to consider revoking your membership here, with your incredibly close ties to the chiefs.

Amazing how a franchise qb can carry a unit, eh? or more importantly things like contract structure. Josh may have the 13th cap hit in a single year, but will never be outside the top ten overall qb contracts for more than about 5 minutes if a couple new signatures come through in quick succession.

I’ll say the Mr average comment May root in a specific dynamic… that at any given tim the nfl only really has maybe 20 true starting qbs, and about a dozen teams searching. It colors fans perceptions in ranking what a middle of the pack qb is. Among the guys that are unquestioned starters - he’s pretty average or lacking exceptional traits and results. He’s a good starter, and has some longevity with that status to accumulate stats and rankings. if you took the 20ish deserving hard to get him above average to slightly above in that group. starting qbs of the last couple years, it’s probably

top ten is essentially “very slightly above average” in this position group. I think that’s a good spot for him.

it’s almost like there’s a lot of hours in the day and media distractions are largely overrated as long as they don’t actively create extreme tension fans just need material for the daily soap opera we tune into and create our own dramas to worry about

or is the point to have a real range of experiences. Elite, solid starter and battling for a role

also, I’m sure he liked a path to play that wasn’t afforded by our current safety pair. That said both sides seem to see some value between the trade back and resigning. if the owner brings a guy back for PR, there may actually be an argument to have him sell - unlike simply letting the process play out with the best 53. practice squad would also satiate the masses, if insisting on that aspect, and I do think that’s a likely outcome if organically arranging the pieces without any special consideration

that may be a bit oversimplified in that he was a free agent and also may not reflect status a year later even if accepted on face value. I’ll agree here. If healthy and returns to playing 100% speed he has a role in the league and it may likely be here still.

my gut is damar to the practice squad and called up with the first injury I’d argue 4 is Marlowes spot to lose

that’s all well and nice but it’s rare they are actually providing meaningful local coverage. It’s a really challenging crossroads currently. We would all benefit from great local news, instead of the barrage of national headlines. We keep getting asked to pay more for worse local news content, and worse experiences. If my local paper gave exceptional coverage I’d be all about it, but local message boards seem to give more qualified deep dives into relevant issues while the local newsroom missed completely.

positional value likely his largest challenge

I didn’t actually wonder about it. I just assumed he had some mitigating circumstance

great team that couldn’t close the deal is at best bittersweet. in The context of now, how excited are you to have the AFCE banner go up? Not super thrilled I’m guessing even if it’s an accomplishment it’s like having a great individual performance in a team loss - you recognize the feat, but it’s still got that feeling of an asterisk

I was one to jump to intoxicants as the culprit but seeing this - there have been a number of incidents on the coast this week. Folks ignoring the warnings. Quite a few deaths in the headlines. Could still have other factors but sobriety wouldn’t be abnormal here either

If one of those stars is the qb it’s by default better than the no stars but balanced offense. Yet alone a balanced one where the bills are very near as good or better at all the positions

do you ever think back on the 90s as bittersweet? Would you hate to have a similar albeit slightly less successful era with Josh Allen? the only thing that matters is getting the ring.

interesting to learn! Good share.