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I’d say it lands as me being curious to watch but not yet super stressed about I don’t mind if he isn’t friendly with teammates but I’m also in favor of him not concussing them or causing strife if we need him to contribute as badly as we do this will be his 5th year

unfortunately that would likely be a bit of praise to him but also acknowledgment that something has gone wrong and he’s the best way to set the floor- not that he’d be exceptional. id love for him to prove that wrong and play better than we even hoped those ahead of him had as expectations and actually raise the ceiling instead of setting a floor though.

I came really close to including him as the last one on my list. I won’t push back on him being the last option. Elite tools, premiere position and not yet a star

yea, it’s got to be in ranked order: cook rousseau Davis(not holding breathe) Either tight end if calling someone a breakout star I can’t say anyone else is really in the running. Definitely other guys could outperform expectations but stardom is very unlikely even in best cases for many mentioned in the thread.

middle of the road decent starter as in QB14-18 range or like fringe top 10 guy? cause I could buy the lower being his likely upside and that’s a guy you try to replace. I’ll also say the comment was specifically referencing in Greggggg which I think is still a situation that would limit his upside too as that’s not a dream offensive coaching setup for him. No way gregggg was bringing elite offensive talent into the building.

it’s a weird spot to put a guy. at the crossroads of a million dollar opportunity that you’ve worked years for… do you bench the kid hoping he actually changes and likely tank your own success, or just ride the ride for 18 months and cash in? at a distance it’s easy to try to save the kid. At the highest level of competition and with tiny windows with them, most accept the meat grinder. Whether it’s the mental health issue, physical health, academic accountability, etc… most programs extract what they can and move to the next guy

yup. I’d much rather he steals touches from Rodgers and breece if I had to choose him vulturing opportunity from someone. Incrementally I don’t think he makes them that much better but he does eat cap space not saying he’s a bum but it’s the less impactful spot

Did you not see this coming?

yea, but is there any reason to believe that much like the broncos the jets won’t be able to Hackett?

disclaimer: Gregg’s not good either and baker wouldn’t be their starter long term under him either

he already can audible and make play calls for himself. id chalk it up as 75% giving the guys a little entertainment in the dog days of august. Calling plays in a 2 min drill will be way different than in the 3rd quarter from the sideline.

exactly my takeaway, but admittedly we know little about today and surely project some of his history on him. it just seems like he’s still in a similar headspace even if not flying at the same altitude.

I doubt it’s anything on that tier a little bit of fun for the guys, and a tiny bit of learning new perspective.

there was similar commentary about the pick on draft night. would’ve been interesting to see what happened if he fell to the third and was a bench guy out of the gate. Based on his current status, I suspect no better but you never know if a humbling at the right moment would help.

the bills have used catapult since 2013 (earliest reference I can find) so it may well be when and not if you get to see it here’s Jordan phillips in one last week: https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/buffalo-bills-jordan-phillips-training-camp-pup-list/article_531b3264-346d-11ee-b5b1-17c2b7530770.html

it was a question mark for you all the way to this week?

impressive to be near 6 ypc behind a mediocre line and getting carries in bad weather when you are that delicate

we’ve played nickel more than 90% of snaps several recent years. Some of the remaining 10% dime. it’s basically only been a goal line package and even then inconsistent we will see about this year but would be odd to ramp up with it the most depleted we’ve seen the lb unit

a guy earning the fourth safety spot isn’t a breakout star.

It’s not unmovable money but it’d be a surprise to take the hit. He’s also some of the last elite speed on the offense with Hines hurt.

and a real lunch pail guy…. Gets extra attention.

He said breakout star this year. im going cook.

it’s the tough thing with unreasonable expectations. people were incredibly over the top with him last year, and now there’s a weird resetting around him. he’s a late round WR. He fell for a reason, and may grow into a role but the idea that we replaced beasley instantly with the 21st WR taken in the draft was unfair to him. he’s got a good skill set and could contribute as he grows though. Or could quietly fade away as he hasn’t shown exceptional at anything yet.

that would qualify as fighting for WR6 and not against harty sending shorter to PS and a better special teamer to the last active spot wouldn’t be unheard of

Wont shock at all to be practice squad