NoSaint

agreed.

Cant be influenced by a team is a poor phrasing. they certainly could miss something that a team points out, and likewise have to deal with the court of public opinion if a teams pointing it out and they don’t act. the bills don’t get to make the call but they absolutely can influence the odds of it happening

which makes sense but would be a coaching issue, not a try harder issue like you were saying

why do the easier and higher percentage option when the pass could work, right?

I can buy a lottery ticket instead of funding my retirement and it’s still the wrong move if I win. take the incredibly safe and should be easy sneak

the play should have never been called even if it worked

that’s maybe being too friendly

like they didn’t watch hurts at the 1

But that many guys were running it with the exact parameters kind of suggests that they’ve worked to do it that way, no?

I mean, can I think he’s a moody guy that’s a mixed bag? It seems fair

wentz had a much less substantial resume and fell off the cliff much harder on the field while being a jerk in the locker room to ice the cake

not to minimize it but you are probably to deep into the trees to see the forest at this point. You are just throwing everything at the wall and should probably go enjoy your Saturday, and come back to the game tomorrow with a clean slate. Josh is an elite qb. The offense even with its troubles is very good. We will likely be play Miami for the division lead in a couple weeks. none of us, you included, needed another new Josh thread. wentz is an awful comparable.

That Allen’s tossed him a few amazing throws isn’t testament to him consistently moving where he should be and getting there on schedule for the qb needs when the play breaks down. he’s slower, lacking agility and doesn’t find the easiest zone for the qb in any consistent way. I’ve in fact watched him drift into really difficult windows frequently. Kind of like running the corner too short creating a harder through in this video, conceptually.

I think Lawrence post pay day and with a defensive coach would be an interesting comparable. Right now he’s in that easiest time to shine where you can have extra weapons. And he has a coach that can help him more. I think Josh has more overall talent though.

It all depends what you mean… running a high/low forcing 1 guy to cover two that are spread is a great test. running a high/low allowing 1 guy to cover two guys clustered is a debacle

As a 4.55 guy, it’s a particular challenge but as a guy with terrible shuttle/cone, and “very poor” grades in agility with the RAS metrics, perhaps underneath is also not his spot as he isn’t running whips and such either. He’s a good mid round pick. He has a spot in the league. He can’t win against CB1 consistently though and you can’t be the team that pays him his second contract.

Davis doesn’t snap. Turning twice would take far too long.

agreed. And it’s hard to put your finger on it to make a message board argument but generally agree that a lot is not crisp, and the system is not sharp and we often have a goofy play call like the OT draw at big times…. And that’s not to say it’s a dumpster fire but…. I wonder often what we’d look like with true offensive leadership in the building. Daboll was better but having an offensive head coach, and an OC who’s sharp would be welcome.

Davis particularly runs soft routes, doesn’t fight for the ball and when plays break down he tends to be not the most qb friendly guy. I really thought in addition to the ankle there was maybe some core injury. He just moved like a cruise ship sometimes last year… but he’s still just not a crisp mover No one said that either though. Needing and wanting are different.

fair. Though I’ll lobby back… is Dorsey in the 3rd quarter calling plays and perhaps on tilt himself the same energy as Dorsey on the sideline with him 2 years ago? Is Joe Brady filling those shoes on the sideline?

he also threw 80 fewer passes in 2022 than 2021…. So an uptick in trouble passes while a drop in overall passes thrown

the worry is he’s not a speed guy or a jumper… so the one trick is not even something he’s particularly skilled at. he seems like a good guy and hard worker and I hoped he’d show up big when healthy but…. That was a bad night.

But seriously - if you were on tilt… is THAT the guy you’re wanting to get you right?

god he’s got a weird presence about him

you can’t call the runs if he acts like he did in the first quarter. If he sneaks out of bounds for the first, and gets down on third and a mile… I think the game flow might’ve been very different (more runs planned and improv, instead of heaving a few of those… and possibky more comfortable on the fumble)