NoSaint

Refer to the first reply in the thread.

Make sure you take the juice for your drink before, not after the bath

It wouldn’t be unheard of to have him emulate a few things in a practice. And just playing him day to day in practice probably helps a little too... but it cuts both ways and practicing against Edelman every day likely in the same way helps the pats DBs as much if not more as he’s generally bigger/faster/quicker

Heres a good fast glance visual: https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/julian-edelman https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/cole-beasley

Does beasley win that? I don’t have it in front of me but relatively across the board it seemed Edelman was beating him athletically. Talking short area - it was drastic gaps in shuttle, cones and I think 10 yard split. No debate on the bottom half though. And to the OPs point - I’d suppose that CB can “scout team” some of Edelman’s moves decently for our defenders. I do like that the OPs returns to the thread have been 100% grammar related though

Time to trade him in for a new one

I shouldn’t have used the the word overwhelming admittedly.... but I’ll say conversationally, most aren’t taking “they will win” as you putting a 51% chance on it. It doesn’t read like “man this is a really tight one but i think they squeeze out a win” And in the nfl anything that leans much past a coin flip is a pretty strong favorite. To be saying that kind of statement against a team like the pats is a relatively bold stance even from the best of teams in the league. Ill add it’s not meant as a knock to buffalo from my end at all.

Well, “they will win” and “they are capable of winning” are two very different stances. I think most believe they could but few think they are an overwhelming favorite.

At a glance- at the combine cole was among the worst at cones and shuttles while Edelman was among the best. Just an example of how they diverge, and that while they both may be effective underneath receivers that how they get there could be a bit different. i think it’s the kind of breakdown that would be fun for someone like cover 1 to do in the offseason

And 91, eh? One of those band wagon fans I see ? Obviously we can. Just a matter of how frequently. I think we we are nearing the territory where you’d expect a split most of the time. Something like we win 4 out of 10 but that’s nice progress and if we sweep the rest of the division 5-1 would be huge as a jumping off point

Right- he has the best analytics guy in the game. It’s a BB answer of the highest degree to say analytics arent really used there.

I don’t know why you think it’s one or the other. and I’m not advocating Gordon but where’s your better cheap backup option for him? Pairing the twos best case in this

Yuuup. And it works. Every time. i want to believe there’s room for a guy that can break down film really well

We don’t even know how long he was straightened up here. If I asked you last week if he was out of shape and high in team meetings you would’ve called me crazy. Wood may have helped a bit but really it’s throwing darts blindfolded. If nothing else, it’s unlikely he was a bad influence.

Seems a bit stretch-y to look at wood or the previously mentioned Castillo here. The dudes always been incredibly erratic, regardless of coach, teammate, etc... two things here though - if he was out of shape and showing up high I’m surprised they even offered the pay cut if this is what he’s owning, I’m curious what if any more is left unsaid.

But as to his point, 300 yards isn’t a feat any longer. It’s akin to not breaking 75 yards rushing or getting 2 turnovers in a game. It’s 20 years without a playoff appearance. Even totally incompetent teams have done it. thats not to say it’s a big deal, it’s just surprisingly outside the norm statistically even when you account for all that.

Bringing up Jim’s stats is terribly out of touch with a league that’s evolved a ton in the last 30 years. that season would be 16th in the league last year and was 3rd in 1991

I think his concern is sustainable winning in a passing league. There were plenty of those stats in the fitz hot start that posters were chastised for pointing out. It’s definitely still a red flag but I’d be surprised if it doesn’t change soon as we have a kid that can sling the ball. If he doesn’t hit 300 soon (and a few times) it’d be a big curveball in my expectations for the development of this team

I’m not arguing who’s doing it, just that I hope they dial back a little

You don’t have to do it often to force that though

Mayve a message board, where people come to discuss things such as player moves, isn’t the place for you.

Yup- top WR, second round defender that can get up field after the qb (from any position, at least situationally) and another 3rd round back would really give some pop to this team if the draft falls right next year.

Yup. Im all for day two RBs and WRs and vet lineman. Just hard to get a lineman up to speed fast and by the time they are good you are paying them. A decent skill guy can be a major impact out of the gate (and help the line out too if they don’t have to hold blocks as long)

Who knows if he works out but there were a few day 2 options. DK just hauled in a heckuva a catch but who knows long term. He’s started well though. i tend to lean towards day 2 skill positions and spending for vet lineman if expecting immediate contribution.

Super curious to see what kind of contract Lamar’s gets when his time comes