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in an interesting twist, it feels like the race to be the most outraged about it has taken away more than the tweet itself did. it would’ve been much cooler if we saw a race to post the coolest human interest stories about Haskins as a “blow back” instead of just trying to be the angriest and loudest to condemn schefter

I am pretty ok with even a simple acknowledgment that it’s not a great tweet but of all the things to crusade about….

I think there’s a difference between giving up and not thinking you can reliably count on the guy. He could step up but if I told you singletary gets hurt in the playoffs, I doubt you are betting the house on moss carrying the load

The guy puts out metric tons of content live and on Twitter - often breaking the news and not just reframing someone else’s report. Some will be imperfect. It’s not like he trashed the guy in any type of over the top way. He acknowledged that the guy was a great collegiate player but still trying to catch on in the nfl. Is it really worth getting out the pitchforks and torches or is it a little bit less consequential? who among us has a history without some sort of ill executed but non malicious mistake

I think his age may be very relevant as I’ve seen commentary that he’s been in substantial mental decline. I can’t say I’ve listened to him meaningfully to have an opinion but it was striking comment to be shared. Just like granting Haskins some humanity, we may later think back similarly on Brandt.

because that’s what was happening here…

If that’s the goal there’s no reason to race - can base your message on whatever the story actually is.

while you don’t see common sense in his actions, my point was you could consider applying it to your own speculation with just slight changes in a basic story, you probably cover about 98% of the possibilities did he feel unsafe on the shoulder or did he worry he’d get in trouble for some reason if he stayed (impaired, weapon or drugs around, etc…) did he somehow mess up his crossing (trip, slip, poor timing) or did the driver have shared culpability (distracted, impaired, otherwise reckless) No I can’t rule out that he flew to Florida to work out with teammates and surprise them by running into a highway to commit suicide, but it’s such an unlikely possibility that it’s hardly worth mentioning unless or until something even remotely opens that door.

let me know what your investigation into this pressing matter reveals and what you’ve learned from it. If putting everything on the table, could be aliens dropping him there too in addition to the speculation around suicide or some high stakes thrilling game of frogger. in the meantime, I think we are safe with a bit of Occam’s razor and common sense out of the gate while letting the facts develop. If it goes an unexpected way, we will be bound to hear about it and get all kinds of grizzly details to learn from.

yup- surely there’s some investigation going on and the police and news agencies are going to be a bit conservative on what they release until things are firmed up. I’d venture within a couple days we will get most of the meaningful info and based on lack of sensational leaks coming out it’ll probably be a sad, but unspectacular, story of every day life sometimes going terribly awry.

Umm…

I think the articles are just parroting the verbiage of the initial police reports as there isn’t much color context in the official statements from the local PD that they are working off.

yea, I was picturing some highway stretches I’ve been on with terrible shoulders and walled off stretches where I can’t say staying put is safe… but can’t imagine crossing that either, hearing your description.

I mean, I think you can create some sort of simple narrative where sitting on the shoulder is also very unsafe, but you might not have a way to get off the shoulder nearby on your side so a guy might roll the dice to cross. It’s not so incredibly unbelievable someone might do the math that way (not that we know that’s what happened)

It’s in the same vein of unprofessionalism that he’s levying criticism for. If he’s genuinely upset with schefter for it, a much better approach would be to tell the story of those more meaningful pieces. put the focus back on the good in Haskins that you believe today should be about instead of centering the story on bickering over tweets.

would a reasonable guess be that he was trying to get to one of those safer paths after car trouble? “If I can cross here it’s risky for a minute but much safer the rest of the way” type of situation

I suspect going forward it will be, and looking back it should have been. Seeing a few folks chiming in that he has been legitimately unwell for a bit here but folks were profiting off him still.

it definitely used to be that you couldn’t restructure a deal in the league year it was signed. Clearly no longer the case.

says still playing today. if you pull the rosters from 2010 to 2015 I bet there aren’t many guys left in the league.

I didn’t think you could restructure in the same year signed, honestly. Maybe the rule changed?

yea, I’d bet if you normalized out based on something like a scout rating (or admittedly imperfect PFF rating) and then even further for contract year - a whole lot of the variability gets accounted for. I can’t think of a young pro bowler stopped in his tracks. I bet most 3rd year depth players that haven’t proven their worth don’t get a vet contract after. But many don’t when healthy either.

hes been hampered by a wishy washy qb who can’t decide what to do with himself. It’s got to be hard on a guy to have a teammate like that

Imagine if your pay check and professional success hung on Rex Overstated. and much of the first 2 years dead space was self inflicted.

the irony is dripping off this like syrup on your Sunday morning waffle.

that he was excited to win more isn’t terrible talking points. He had been under dysfunctional regimes. We would say the same trash about Rex and we were much less impacted