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Unemployable Was the Bills secretary Very defensive

Some guy hated Ralph Drank beers and got some divorce Would not buy the merch

Harsh.........but I think it needed to be said. But now that the weight of his utter prediction failure has been duly noted.........I think we need some perspective from Teddy Roosevelt: The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; but eballs, meaning he comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming Here's to striving and to you @eball🍷 RIP 2020 predictions

Yeah he's kinda' boned.........the old boy network of hiring retread HC's is going to be under an even greater level of scrutiny..........and he thinks he's more than a DC(which he ain't).

He says the opt-out experience made him a better coach. Imagine how much better he will be after his experience this season. Now is the time, Jets.

Yeah there was a lot changing. He looked more physical after the bye but he still wasn't really making any big plays at MLB. Then we actually got a glimpse of Edmunds being used at the LOS on the edge against SF........and it looked promising. As @Simon mentioned they seemed determined in this NE game to use Edmunds more like they had early in the season and it brought back flashes of the worst in his play.

I hope we don't see much, if any, 5 wide. That just congests the passing lanes and then you end up playing dink and dunk passing game. 11 personnel (1 RB, 1TE with 3 WR) really creates ideal time and space for big plays in the passing game. In most sports.......having veterans in the playoffs is a big advantage and if Stills gets WR snaps I expect it will be at the expense of Gabe Davis. Gabe has been a dynamic rookie........a bunch of TD's, great separation numbers, big ypc............but he's also made some dynamically negative plays.......a dropped TD, several poorly played deep balls, a couple very untimely, drive-killing missed blocks and mid-field drops. He's done a lot of positive stuff but they might not be able to overcome him making a couple inexperienced gaffe's in a shootout playoff game.

Eh.......there's almost never 3 championship worthy teams regardless...........and it's always fun watching pretenders ND and Ohio State and Oklahoma getting their ***** kicked in after they pander for position all season.

Cherry picking a few stats from a few games out of a season does not a compelling argument make. I literally gave you a season worth of extensive pass defense stats and it's not like the stats you gave me as a defense were even signs of exemplary play. His best stretch of pass defense this year is worse than his entire season performance last year. But, OK.......... in those games where he had better ratings what plays did he make? Pass breakups? Interceptions? Forced fumbles? TFL's? Take a look at those type of plays in his stat line.........you will find that he's actually regressed steadily in those statistics since his rookie year.

Yep, they certainly earned any indifference or hate they got. It would have been very hard to endure without the tailgating...........in fact I don't know if the team would still be here if the fans didn't stick together and find a reason to keep showing up and fund all that bad football as the NFL simultaneously tried to crack down on all that pre-game celebrating. Now that they are winning I hope people put their money where there mouth is...........and I don't mean like when @eball does that.

Where ANY of my arguments have "fallen flat" here for 20+ years is when saying anything that isn't 100% hype being blown up the status quo. But in lieu of any actual football discussion(as in your case) I will gladly take hate from a bunch of rando's from east BF.

I'll try to be extra loud for you ol' pal.

And I am saying that yours is a straw man argument made perhaps from a willfully unanalytical position. I have never said that Edmunds couldn't play MLB. Tyrod Taylor was one of the only 3 AFC QB's invited to the Pro Bowl in 2015........he could play QB.......that didn't make him tremendous though....... it made him the 3rd best of a relatively weak field of AFC QB's that year. That's the case at ILB in the AFC the past couple of seasons. The NFC is a much different story. They are stacked at MLB. Not that it matters THAT much because being a top MLB is akin to being a top RB. Their presence or the lack thereof doesn't move Vegas lines. Julian Stanford and Tyrel Dodson have literally both stepped in for Edmunds and the D has not missed a beat and Klein has handled mike duties just fine(arguably better) when they've switched up responsibilities. It's not if Edmunds can play MLB though............it's how well and if that's the most impactful position he could fill.

If this possibility is just occurring to you then you are extremely late to the party. Anything goes this year.

Are people actually saying he just "isn't a MLB" at all or that he's just not that exceptional at it and may be better served at a position where he can make more of an impact? Off-ball LB's aren't as valued as they once were. MLB in particular is basically a reflection of the RB position..........its typically a player with a size/athleticisim ratio that's relatively easy to find and the good ones seem to have a 6th sense negotiating thru traffic. But teams let even the good ones walk in free agency the same way they do RB's or Guards because they aren't that hard to replace. You really don't want to spend a first round pick on a guy who just executes his assignments and calls the defenses correctly from an off-the-ball LB position..........and I suspect, as do most, that Edmunds could do a lot more good in pursuit of the passer.

Which LB among Klein, Milano and Edmunds would you expect to NOT know where the first down marker was? That's pre-snap football that one would expect even Tyrel Dodson not to screw up. The issue isn't that Edmunds blows the most basic assignments..........he doesn't.......he's mostly assignment sound........the issue is what happens when he has to react(be instinctive). He too often chooses the wrong gap.............he tries to arm tackle when he has plenty of time and space to line up ball carriers...........and time and again the ball finds him unprepared for it and falls harmlessly at his feet. And his vaunted frame covers some air space but it doesn't do him any favors when shedding blocks, working thru the trash to get to ball carriers and/or then having them get under his pads and take him for a ride. Like I said.........he is in the position to make a ton of plays in this defense and he just leaves SO many of them on the field.

Oh I watch plenty of the film. And I am a season ticket holder with seats in the middle of the field and had a birdseye view of his uninstinctive play for his first two years. I was intrigued by the "positionless football" concept that landed Edmunds in the middle. I thought length on the lines and at LB might make it hard for teams to pass the ball in the middle of the field. But that hasn't actually been the case. I see QB's manipulate Edmunds and throw the ball right behind him. I've seen them, now confident from 3 years of tape, challenging him with tight window throws knowing that he just does not make plays on the football. Turnover differential is so important........literally the most decisive stat next to the actual score. Ultimately the plays in this defense are all made by the conventionally built athletes like Milano and Poyer........not the spiderman freak-athlete Edmunds......even though he is in the most likely place to make them in this defense. Maybe the light comes on for him at some point..........it would be very convenient if that were in these playoffs..........but after 3 years of diminishing returns from him as a playmaker I think it's more than fair to wonder if his talents would be much better served in a position where he can just attack and make use of his physical gifts.

ALL of them. He has a ghastly 116 passer rating allowed......4 TD passes allowed.......he is giving up nearly 9 yards per pass attempt against him..........just 3 pass breakups on the entire season.........ZERO interceptions..........you name it. He has played better of late.........in particular I thought he really brought it physically against the Niners..........but if you watch this defense objectively he leaves more plays on the field than ANYONE. Even Levi. And I am a big Edmunds fan..........I thought he was a great pick by Beane.........I thought he was the best pass rushing prospect in that draft...........but he's just not playing up to his immense talent as an off-ball LB.

Milano? Tre White? They had a lot of players clearly nursing injuries in the first half of the season. They are playing good team defense now........but it would be nice to have a playmaking MLB. The difference between Edmunds and the better MLB's in the NFL(the NFC is loaded at the position) is that playmaking..........Edmunds just can't get himself there. The AFC is very WEAK at ILB........a devalued position.......so Edmunds gets some mostly undeserved run but the improvements on defense have mostly been about adjustments to scheme, effort and technique........not the return to health of any one player.

I thought the lasting Edmunds image was a tired Cam Newton leaving Edmunds face down as he strolled into the end zone for the only offensive TD that the Patriots had scored in the last 3 games? And yes thanks for the dream catcher.......he is easily the most physically gifted player on the defense..........and yet even his pass defense numbers have been terrible this year and Poyer, Milano, White, Hughes.......Klein even.........have had to make all of the game changing plays. Edmunds is very gifted athlete.........and if this defense gives up 10 points or less this weekend they can match the NFL-leading-tackler-Preston-Brown-lead 2017 McDefense in points allowed(349 current vs. 359). Those were some big shoes to fill..........there is a little room in the toe yet maybe but not too shabby.

First.......the "your opinions don't bother me" and then "I, I, I won money.......but you guys just don't know about it". Good job there, handsome. This thread just keeps getting better. Now that everyone knows that your pockets are lined with easy money I expect they will try to part it from you via more wagers!

Dammit! You can put your mouth where that eball money is too Dablitzkrieg! Happy New Year tho......you too @eball.(better luck next year)

The 2020 Bills were the clear division favorite in Vegas(and in Buffalo) and tied with TN for 5th best odds to reach the SB in the AFC. The 1990 Bills were tied with the Browns for second best SB odds from the AFC at +1200..........Denver was the clear favorite at +700. The biggest difference is that preseason nobody on the planet thought any AFC team had a snowballs chance against the NFC winner in the SB in January 1991...........which along with the underachieving nature of the 1989 Bickering Bills and a week two 30-7 blowout by the Dolphins didn't exactly have expectations thru the roof early on. The crazy game against the defending AFC champs Denver changed all of that............but there wasn't much more anticipation around that team than this one IMO.

There are a lot of people who travel a long way to make it to Bills games. That's awesome and cheers to you guys! But the system was obviously designed to create as little potential for spread as possible........which means they absolutely didn't want people flying in from out of state if they could avoid it.........I think if the season ticket base hadn't become SO decentralized because of the drought they might have just allowed OP residents only at the game. Which would have been fine with me. I may go or may not but just grateful some fans are getting the chance to attend.