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Oh definitely.........Davis wasn't drafted earlier than expected.........it's just that it was possibly the deepest WR draft ever. Most years.......especially a few of those lean ones right after 2014........he's likely a second or third.

The two Roman offense's were similar but the issue with Tyrod was that he didn't have that ceiling. They aren't the same player.........Jackson has more arm talent and he showed excellent pro passer traits in college. The Ravens passing offense is indeed terrible...........but lack of talent at the skill positions aside, Jackson has never been developed as a passer........put Allen in that offense for 3 years and he is probably still at a woeful level as a passer. The Bills took the chance and put Allen in a very complex passing offense and took two full years of lumps developing him as a passer.........he was literally the least accurate starting QB in the NFL..........now he is tremendous........so I wouldn't be so quick to discount Jackson's potential based on the passing game results in probably the most run-oriented NFL offense in 40 years or more(and the most yardage produced rushing in NFL history).

Like @GunnerBill I agree........a top TE would be great. A modestly talented one who needs development is almost as bad as drafting a RB in round 1 though so you really need a guy you are pretty certain will nail it. I haven't done any work on arranging the TE prospects but right now the draftniks don't have any of those on radar except Pitts........who is obvious(but even the obvious move TE1's sometimes turn into journeyman). If you can't get a special one then draft them where they are usually found.........middle rounds and hope you get a Kelce or Kittle with the next one. Knox is a top athlete but he is just so unnatural catching the football that his ceiling seems low.

Mostly correct, IMO but I don't think Jackson is inherently limited in the passing game at all. His ceiling as a passer is definitely top 10, IMO. But the circumstances of his entry into the NFL were not conducive to his development as a passer. Drafted late in round 1......kinda' found money not a huge investment...... by a win-now franchise with a playmaker depleted offense......and given an OC who was known for "high school" level passing concepts(per Trent Dilfer). It was inevitable that they were going to use his magic feet at the expense of his development as a passer. During the draft process I thought Jackson was most likely going to end up as the Bills pick.........Allen, Darnold, Mayfield and Rosen would all go top 5......farther than the Bills would be willing to trade up. Turns out the league kinda' snoozed and let Allen and Jackson slide much too far but I watched all the Lamar Jackson game footage I could get and he really had excellent arm talent and decent natural accuracy.

I feel like it's coming tho. Especially after advancing this far, having weather scares for their pass heavy offense and poor rushing production in the playoffs. After Cody Ford I am still not entirely convinced they fully understand that you wanna' save those picks for premium $ positions. I expect Travis Etienne maybe. Same logic Chiefs used with CEH last draft. Hopefully I am wrong and they don't use a primo pick on a back and rather their scouting department finds the inevitably comparably productive gem late in the draft or UFA............. but I expect the potential short term returns on a RB will be tempting to McBeane the same way they were with Singletary/Moss picks.

I hate to ever see Brady win but since the Bills have a chance to be playing the Packers in the SB I didn't want baby-back ribs Brees going to Lambeau and his floundering Saints serving as an appetizer. Brees could barely throw the ball yesterday he'd have been an embarrassment in the cold of the frozen tundra. The Bucs are much more likely to give Green Bay a game.

Yeah and whether you and I like it or not they probably put some more valuable chips into upgrading the RB position this offseason and have an even more consistent and balanced offense next year than this one. And then maybe if he gets a HC job next year it will be a no-brainer and he will take the job during WC week while the Bills are on a bye.

It's definitely good to get out of the way. First world problem having coordinators interviewing for HC jobs on off-days during playoffs but I can't see how it's possible to be 100% into the game plan that week when you are trying to sell yourself and a staff of prospective hires to another organization. Might take some pressure off of Josh but more importantly it should put some extra focus on Daboll knowing where he is going to be next year.

Honest Urb taking the Jax job threw a wrench into it for the guys who could choose to wait for a job that came with an elite young QB. That left only LA and Houston........and with Watson maybe on the way out in Houston..........yeah, good decision to stay home in Buffalo if the LA job wasn't offered.

I will never forget being at that one.........just a ton of crazy sh*t happened that day and the way it went down it looked like there was no end in site for the Bills AFC domination. Just manhandled the Chiefs........it was the easiest run thru the playoffs that 4x AFC champ Bills team had. As it turned out the AFC remained ripe for the taking for another couple years but the Bills got ravaged by free agency. One of the enduring memories tho was watching all those stunned mid-westerners roll into that scene in the parking lots in their buses. They were stunned by the verbal abuse/trash talking. Bills fans were not used to facing off against fans who showed up for the game with their sewing kits.......they were ready to deal with the likes of Steelers and Raider and Miami fans. KC fans were calling WGR after the game to complain about the treatment and it was certainly warranted.

You and @Rico are both right. Rex was like Jauron and Gailey rolled into one..........a conservative gameday coach but with a totally undisciplined, unaccountable culture. Too many Bills fans......especially the younger ones......... ate that sh*t up..........it was their dream to have a bunch of irreverent leaders the likes of Stevie Johnson and Rex lead the organization to a SB. But if they couldn't do that.......as long as they could break the rules that would suffice! The birth of the Bills mafia moniker was defending absolute nonsense from SJ13 so Rex was a perfect counter-culture fit for the dysfunctional organization. All that being said........it hasn't been one home run after another in decision making at OBD since McD arrived.........especially the first two years there were a ton of bad ones..........but when you get a top of the league QB you just may end up with situations where people can justify 3 years of big money to Trent Murphy by pointing out that he made an excellent play in a playoff game.

Correct. There have been favorites entering the playoffs that have been upset in great part due to injury or illness and that part really isn't remembered. And since it's a violent game where availability is the most important ability then I suppose that makes sense. The best Steelers team of their 70's dynasty was probably the 1976 team. Possibly the best defense in NFL history and 5th in the NFL in scoring that season. They had two 1,000 yard rushers in Franco Harris and Rocky Bleier........but both were injured in a 40-14 annihilation of the Colts in round 1 and without them they lost to the Raiders 24-7 in the AFC title game. All we remember are those NFL films images of Willie Brown sealing the SB XI victory for Oakland over the Vikings. Before that Oakland's legacy was "just lose in the playoffs, baby".

I've never been interested in that true crime stuff but I have found the recent DNA catches interesting. The Golden State Killer had Bills Country connections(Bath NY). My oldest daughter had a test done..........confirmed what I was told about where everyone came from. Didn't go into potential family matches. My grandfather was married 3 times back when one divorce was scandalous so I wouldn't be surprised in the least if I had a bunch of relatives we weren't aware of.

He'll be fine with the concussion.........they just gotta' get him sharp for one 3 hour game and drugs can do that. The turf toe will be the bigger issue. Limiting his mobility a bit or him being tentative stepping into a throw could make a difference on a few plays. Funny that they basically tried to keep Mahomes in bubble wrap for a month and he got a season worth of injuries(for a modern NFL QB) in one game........that's NFL football for ya'. I don't think people should underrate the toll that going very deep in the playoffs for 3 straight seasons has on a team. The Chiefs have looked tired. Maybe they get amped up now that there is a real trophy on the line.........and not that the Bills have looked mid-season sharp by any means........ but the Chiefs don't look much like the team that was in the playoffs the last two seasons.

This thread is a STRETTTTTTTTTTTCH and a half. Unwanted was a starting QB/WR corps of 7th round Ryan Fitzpatrick, 6th round Stevie Johnson and undrafteds Donald Jones and David Nelson. All the current Bills were very much wanted players.........it's not like Diggs, Brown and Beasley are playing for peanuts that's about $30M in compensation right there. Davis was a second or third round talent that fell to round 4 only because the draft was incredibly deep at WR.

@eball Can family business be resolved before you repent for dropping your 27 year season tickets in frustration in the offseason when McDermott was hired? This thread may need psychoanalysis. Any hot take brought up that has been or seems extinguished in this thread comes down to one thing............ the drafting and maturation of Josh Allen. The Bills don't have the best roster or cap situation in the league........sometimes they are still going to get outcoached at very inconvenient times(see two weeks ago)........players, coaches and personnel people just look A LOT smarter when they have one of the top 3 QB's in the entire league on their side. And that's what Josh Allen is right now. Why not bring up "wrong Josh"........ perhaps because you were a "wrong Josh" guy? Put this team and 2019 Josh Allen up against this schedule and the season would have been over in plenty of time for "loyal" fans to take a few games off before Xmas.🤭 As @Rico implied every time a regime changed were we subjected to someone posting something like this to call Donahoe/Greggo/Jauron/Chan/Buddy/Whaley etc.. apologists out? No. We just mocked you guys individually.😙

When you already wear a gigantic flack jacket and one solid hit causes 18 breaks/fractures in your ribs you probably need to call it quits and start hocking for AARP. The past few years he has been physically gassed by the time they reached the playoffs.........this year he was so whipped it looked like he couldn't open up his body to use his core to make throws and that made him look Peterman-esque on anything over 10 yards tonight.

1) 2) Murphy was a huge disappointment but Murphy was hobbled in 2018 and their 2019 seasons including playoffs weren't very different at all. Shaq had some more pressures and TFL but Murphy forced fumbles and collected an INT and 2 fumbles. Turnovers are gold. Couting playoffs Murphy had 7 sacks and Shaq 6.5. Would you have been happy paying Shaq $11M to put up 16 tackles and 4 sacks this year? I think not. Just because one player wasn't productive at a bloated salary doesn't lower the bar of expectation.

1. Lawson wasn't a one year cap hit decision like Murphy. Shaq returned to his pre-contract run play level this year and now Miami is stuck with him for next season. 2. Not picking up his option is the only reason they got one good season out of Lawson in 2019. He was not bought in......he was basically flying to South Carolina the night after every home game to go play Wooderson on campus on his day off. The contract run got him focused. Don't know how much more clear that 3 poor seasons before he got paid and 1 immediately after he got paid can make that.

The wind was hardly noticeable in the stands. It felt almost calm. The flags they show above the stadium on tv blow like crazy because they are up very high but the field itself SHOULD have been calm like the stands.......but it is just a wind vortex. It's just an oddity but the stadium has always been like that. It has to be correctable or at least be able to be minimized thru engineering. It's not good for business, ultimately.

It looked a lot like the 2019 game early on.........deep balls badly over thrown. Except this time it was mostly the wind.........last year Josh couldn't hit a deep ball regardless. The conditions REALLY played into the Ravens hands but oddly enough it was not being able to snap the ball in the wind that really killed them. Mekari was losing his mind out there. He tried to adjust but nothing worked.

Zimmer has been a big upgrade to Star Lotulelei.

You are welcome, @Beerball. Yes I was there again @eball. Just getting up after a long night of celebrating......we got to sit in the seats directly behind our seasons and I didn't take a down off again.........the seats took a pounding. The crowd was much drunker and louder than the Indy game(not surprisingly). I'd say we were at about 80% capacity for noise per fan which is just incredible because we generally don't get close to 50% with a full crowd in a big game.........every one was into it and if you weren't making noise you would have stuck out like a sore thumb. It was a great experience and we had 6 of our group at this one so we got to celebrate a bit in the lot while we waited to leave too.......quite a scene. Weirdest thing was being the first time driving to a Bills game in the dark.........felt like we were driving the wrong direction.

Gate time isn't checked you just roll in and get parked Disney style.........neither was the time of covid testing.....you could roll up whenever. You can sit in your car for as long as you'd like before the game they weren't checking that. You can get out and move around drink a bit around the vehicle if you act like you are getting ready. If you didn't get your covid test result back yet you can go to bioreference.com/get-results and set up an account and view them and use that as your proof for entry. If NYS sends you a questionaire and you fill it out it will show on the ticket takers device that you have passed your test when they scan your NYS drivers license.

That you, William?