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I agree with most of that but the Bills are most definitely chasing their elite pass rusher...........that's where I find the Edmunds usage discouraging.

Maybe the Chiefs get tired from all the long playoff runs.........but the Bills actually have one of the oldest rosters in the league........there will be as much or more turnover in Buffalo as in KC.

Actually I have liked all of the players the Bills selected in round 1 since McD got here. Of course, at the time, I assumed Edmunds was going to be an OLB with a chance to be developed as a game-breaking pass rusher. The MLB experiment has resulted in a whole lotta' "meh"...........hasn't worked because Edmunds is just not an instinctive MLB.......that position really needs to be a mirror of the RB position and he is nothing like a RB in any way, shape or form. So keeping him at MLB is a waste of a player who could have had the impact of a TJ Watt, IMO. You can get that 2021 cap room info on spotrac but roughly: Colts $80M WFT $45M Bucs $40M Ravens $30M Browns $30M Bills $5M Chiefs are over the cap by $20M but they are BUILT. They aren't chasing and their key players are under contract. The Colts probably have the best roster in the AFC aside from the QB position. The Ravens are the team most Bills fans are sleeping on because they think Lamar can't pass the ball. They're wrong. I don't want to see him get a couple weapons in the passing game but that's exactly what the Ravens are going to do.

He gets voted to the Pro Bowl because he plays a devalued position and there simply aren't many good MLB's in the AFC. I mean........name ANY Chiefs linebacker? They are the favorites in the Super Bowl and their LB's are JAG's. If you are going to put big chips into the MLB position he needs to be a playmaking machine..........otherwise it's a waste.

Edmunds is good in pass defense? He had a 114 passer rating against and less passes defensed than Mario Addison. Everyone expects him to just get better with age.........what they forget is the lesson we learned from the likes of JP Losman and Trent Edwards......... the more weaknesses they put on tape the more teams were able to exploit their weaknesses. With Edmunds......this season QB's threw at his man when Edmunds was right on him because they've learned that Edmunds does not have a nose for the football..........he does not make big plays and force or collect turnovers..........so if you throw at him the worst thing that can happen is the ball ends up on the turf.

I think Allen is there already. He's great. Mahomes is there too and he's simply proven to be greater. Their contests have been no-contest. They've both been starters in the NFL since 2018 and their teams are in relatively similar cap situations so I don't think it's to be assumed that the Bills and Allen can get better and the Chiefs and Mahomes can't. Beane has been competing against "Billsy" for the past few seasons.......now he has to actually out maneuver the Chiefs while also fending off teams like Indy and Baltimore who are also right on the Bills heels.

Right of first refusal or a cheap long term deal. If you lose him draft one or sign one in UDFA. Beane has overpaid a lot for special teams to get to this point.........now that they are cap-strapped it's time to start watching what they spend on ST'ers.

You're frustrated because it's maddening knowing that they passed on a QB and he's dominating the league and has now directly blocked the Bills from a SB. Tough talk isn't going to change that. But your point about Josh having to develop his talent and team.......that is probably the best chance that Allen has to catch Mahomes. Mahomes makes uber-athletic Deshaun Watson look robotic by comparison so making it look easy like him isn't a realistic option for any current QB. But it's come easy for Mahomes. Allen was a nobody in HS with zero family professional pedigree as an athlete. Mahomes was top prospect in both baseball and basketball and his dad was a pitcher in the major leagues for a long time so everyone in the scouting community knew about him. He was a non-stop one man highlight reel throwing the football in college......where Allen had to grind and struggle, only showing flashes of brilliance. It's come incredibly easy for Mahomes.......mostly by his own doing.......but nonetheless he hasn't had to fight to make it. If his team keeps sleep-walking into title games it's not out of the realm of reason that he could eventually lose his edge.

The "2 weapons that are HOF candidates" were on the field.......along with the NFL's leading rusher Kareem Hunt........when a Bills defense that had just experienced their worst 3 game stretch in franchise history went to KC and shut down Reid and his Chiefs in 2017. With just a top 10-12 QB in the NFL in Alex Smith they weren't that scary. Too much is made of the significance of Mahomes "weapons". Mahomes elevates the level of those around him...........the AFCCG where the Chiefs were piling up yards of RAC? That was just taking the low hanging fruit. He wasn't pressured or stressed at all. If he had to push the ball down the field more he could have. They absolutely toyed with the Bills scared and tentative defensive strategy.

I would say Olajuwon would be the better comp. The Bills passed on Mahomes to get to Allen.......sorta' like the Rockets passed on Jordan by taking Olajuwon. Like the Bills.........they LITERALLY could have drafted either. I'd take that........"The Dream" won 2 titles in Jordan's absence.......but let's hope for more.

And scouts are scouts because there aren't enough better jobs as gym teachers. Here's how the system works: The NFL knows scouting is a very inexact science. They pay their scouts accordingly.........very little. Draftniks pay attention and $ to a network of needy scouts to help them put a framework of players together. They follow the tips and probably at least scout that framework. If Mitch Morse isn't in that framework..........he is either ignored or assumed to be something that teams of regional scouts have totally missed. Which is rarely the case.........but at the same time for every Mitch Morse there is a TJ Graham. "Surprise Bills fans! Nobody had us taking TJ Graham so early.......see those dumb "pundits"." The NFL is one of the few industries where the formula for making the product is more valuable as a product for public consumption than as a trade secret.

No. Shaq returned to his "meh" self once he got paid. Addison was a disappointment but he was a one year commitment.............Miami is stuck with Shaq for next year because the dead cap is over $10M to cut him. Addison's dead cap is $4M.........which sucks.........but at least that's $6M in 2021 cap room that could in theory go into year one of a long term deal for a legitimate pass rusher. Ultimately $10M+ DE's that don't move the needle in pass rush like Lawson and Addison aren't a fit for this style of defense.

History? Hey some of our best baseball players gave up a couple years of their careers to help save you soccer playing, injury faking wimps from Hitler and this is the respect you give? Sheesh. Josh Booty is actually a good example of why we have better athletes at QB today.........the guaranteed baseball money was huge compared to the earnings potential as a QB in football at the time. Booty wanted more than anything to be the QB at LSU but he couldn't pass on the huge guaranteed money. Drew Henson followed him as famous dual sport athlete QB but Henson actually preferred baseball(and he was signed with the Yankees, who you of course have never heard of or seen people wearing Yankee hats around town I'm sure). They both should have stuck with football.......the increase in degree of difficulty from HS to pro football is much less than in pro baseball. Much easier to project that's why after failing at baseball they were able to practically walk off the street into reserve roles in the NFL. With all the arm talent in the US it amazes me that we still have QB's at the Shrine game and Senior Bowl every year who can't even throw a football but at least it's almost to a point where every team at least has a starting QB who can pass for one.

And thereby also the nephew of the more historically significant Josh Booty..........the 5th overall pick of the 1994 MLB draft while also the #1 football recruit(QB) in the nation.

The same people who say "no way" would be open to selecting Aloe Vera Tucker, offensive guard.......with that pick.

Between Addison, Butler and Jefferson in terms of potential production going forward..........I'd rather keep Butler..........but not at that cap hit. Pretty sure they were hoping to replicate the Jordan Phillips experience with Butler as another huge 3T but of course Butler ended up playing a ton of 1T.

If it's Andrew Luck news and it's not from @stuvian...........it's fake.

Because he wasn't being mocked as day one or even a day two pick until the draftniks actually got their late draft season info from the actual team scouts. And c'mon.......don't tell me about measurables making it impossible for a player not to be drafted early..........there are obviously a TON of examples of that not being the case. Not sure what circumstances were unfortunate..........drafted to a good team.........given a starting job..........signed to a record contract for a center............the only unfortunate thing IMO is being stationed at center when he should have been a tackle.

As you might say.......I will trust the expert opinion over yours. (IMO Wood is the best Bills analyst) Yep it must have sucked to be a running back behind that blocking. By seasons end they weren't giving 100% on every play.........why would they? They are human beings they aren't going to run full speed into the hole over and over knowing that it's just going to end in an untouched defender getting a free run at a violent collision for little gain. I can remember a specific run play against Miami early in the finale where Moss had what should have been an easy 12-15 yard gain but he was stopped after 8. I was exasperated watching that sh*t but it wasn't a lack of ability on his part.......the tentativeness was self preservation. It became 'trust but verify" out there for the RB's and he who hesitates.....

They could save his $7M base salary and might be able to pursue re-imbursement for his remaining unamortized bonus money of around $5.5M if he chose to retire. Not going to happen though. No way his agent let's him just retire with a "healthy" designation and give back money. If he decides to call it quits they would just end up releasing him and take the hit and save $5M total.

I thought it was worth a look putting him at tackle when they first got him and he was already in concussion protocol before even playing a preseason game. But at this point I think the damage is probably done. At RT he has a better chance of defending himself but as susceptible as he seems to be now there are still going to be collisions violent enough to knock him out of the lineup.

This is a tremendous question and probably should be explored in a thread of it's own rather than here. @GunnerBill would you want to tackle where you think the Beane front office ranks in decision making compared to the current front offices around the league? To get a better perspective...........remove their QB decisions. Yes those are huge..........selecting Allen was why they got to a championship game............but trading the Mahomes pick to KC to defer selecting a QB to 2018 so Beane could do it in person is also why they got beat and will be favored to be beaten in matchups with KC for the foreseeable future, most likely. My take is that aside from Allen, Brandon Beane and the "all star" cast of personnel people have been pretty pedestrian. His results are not only skewed by the great QB but because he bought and over-paid for a quicker turnaround than he was going to get with his modest work in drafting. The method they used to start their regime was risky.......ridding themselves of the prior regimes first and second round picks on principle dug them a roster hole that they were going to need to be efficient to dig out of. Currently Beane has one of the oldest rosters in the NFL and he's up against the cap because he paid top dollar to build up depth and special teams in the very short term. Yes I know.......he can "get out of" deals.......but when you then ultimately end up paying $13M for one year of Mario Addison........that's not a win. Maybe the development side isn't helping him out enough...........I am sure he didn't just pluck a guy like Wyatt Teller out of the locker room unannounced.........someone on the ground likely deemed him expendable as well, likely McDermott.

All I can tell you is that was Woods' explanation. He said he had been jarred similarly by the very same play many times against the Patriots. Do you not think that Morse is protecting his head from violent collisions now? Simple fact about pass blocking versus run blocking........pass blocking is about balance and keeping your head up. Run blocking inline requires leaning your body weight into the defender........which you can't do effectively with your head up. IMO Morse is broken. Wish I was wrong. He was a favorite of mine going into the draft.......I thought he was going to be a real late round steal at right tackle. KC did him a disservice moving him inside, in retrospect, IMO.

No. The tenor of the thread was how Beane fleeced the Vikings. He did not. I supported the trade and understood why he had to make it...........they had failed miserably at getting a WR1..........most recently passing on DK Metcalf in favor of Cody Ford. Beane wasn't dealing from a position of strength.......even though Diggs had worn out his welcome with Vikings management the Bills were in the more desperate situation. That has been Beane's MO.........make initial mistakes.........then have to pay above expectation to fix them. That's why he's in a bad cap situation.

My favorite example is that the 2017 Bills had ZERO drought-era first round picks on the field in their playoff game against the Jags. Tre White was their most recent and only own first rounder on the field that day. Shaq was the only other one on the roster and he was JAG at that point. That's why I can believe these people who think the Texans should trade Watson for 3 first round picks............in reality that's a pathetic offer for a top 5 QB.