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It's ignorant to look at it that simply. The division game between Buff/KC was played at a very high intensity level.........the championship game was not particularly well played by either team. When Burrow threw that stupid pick in the second half after they just got a KC turnover.......it was as if nobody wanted to win the game. If that Chiefs team showed up the week before it would have looked a lot like the 38-20 win the Bills secured in Arrowhead earlier in the season. And before you anoint their pass rush, remember the Bengals gave up 31 in regulation to the Chiefs at home in Cinci a few weeks earlier. It took a half of terrible football from the Chiefs to get that game into OT..........if you're gameplan is built around the hope the Chiefs just play like sh*t when you face them that's not really a great plan, IMO.

It's pronounced Duh-Neil like Da'Rick.

I asked how this guy played in the other thread too.........but Noah Ellis is a very high pedigree prospect..........he was actually a 4 star recruit while Jordan Davis was only a 3 star. If Ellis stays in the SEC (I think he was originally committed to Ole Miss or Miss St) maybe he's the top NT in the draft class..........it's a position where it's easy to get lost in the college game.

I haven't watched the recording of the Shrine game yet. How did Noah Ellis play? 6'4" 360#........highly recruited son of a former stud NFL DT Luther Ellis...........just chose to play at Idaho St. because his dad was the DL coach there. I know he looked good in practices because there were some dominant clips of him plowing OL over on the bull rush that people were gushing about.

Oh Jordan Phillips was that guy at Oklahoma Lance Zuerlein on Phillips............"Read-and-react two-gap nose with ability to eat space and free linebackers". Final NFL.com mock draft in Phillips year: 39. Chicago Bears:Jordan Phillips, DT, Oklahoma That transition to the 3-4 just got a lot easier with the large, but surprisingly athletic, Phillips clogging up the middle. Davis got an extra bump in attention this year playing on the #1 defense in the nation for most of the year but make no mistake........very similar players entering the league.......Phillips declared early but he and 4 year player Davis final year stats were very similar. Being tall like Davis and Phillips makes it difficult to have the leverage to be a true NT/space eater in the NFL. FWIW........Danny Shelton was the NT/space eater rated and drafted ahead of Phillips in that draft.........Shelton is an actual space eater who has bounced around the league and had his moments........he played on a vet min deal with NYG last year and is also a forgotten free agent if all you need is a big run stuffer. They ain't worth much once you drive them off the lot............but hey...........let's use a first round pick on one, right?

It was an excellent show. Must see for Bills fans, IMO.

Eh........Vea hasn't been as good as many Bills fans think either........when you factor in availability Oliver has actually probably been better over the first 3 years versus Vea's first 3. And of course, the worst trade decision in Bucs history may have been deciding not to pick Josh Allen at #7 and instead trading back and taking Vea.

Well as solid as Oliver has been from day one..........he certainly hasn't been the exception to the rule that a lot of us thought he would be. 1st round draft stock pound for pound.......and #7 is a BIG chip.......Oliver might be the worst bang for the buck Beane has gotten.

When McVay was winning in 2017 TSW was like.........."but he's mortgaged the Rams future"..........and here it is 2022 and he's in his second SB. In reality with Woods due back they are probably still SB contenders next year even if they lose OBJ and Von Miller........which aren't givens. With creative cap work they could probably extend their window a few more years before Stafford and Donald flame out.........especially in the suddenly vulnerable NFC. If the objective is to spend a lot more resort time with THAT woman..........understandable. But own it........

I don't know if I'd say there isn't much depth. There are actually an inordinate amount of enormous 350# space eating DT's that are currently projected as late picks or UDFA's. Marquan McCall from Kentucky is like 380 and was a 4 star recruit. Long time NFL stud Luther Ellis' son Noah weighs in around 350. Tayland Humphrey from Louisiana is around 350. They may all prove to not be able to cut it but it's not terribly uncommon to find good, big DT's late in the draft. Big, space eating DT's(like Norman Hand or Snacks Harrison to name a couple of many) can easily fly under the radar because the college offensive game is typically very quick hitting and it's really easy to avoid or negate the impact of players who play a power game in a small area of the field. And while some big DT's do hit...........I like my chances getting the most violence out of a hungry hippo rather than giving $8M-$9M guaranteed to a Vernon Butler or Jordan Phillips type right out of the gate.

Yeah it wasn't just Dawkins or just White or whatever..........the Panthers were quite adamant that the Bills knew what their final draft board looked like and that the Bills moved around accordingly to beat them to the punch. Weeks later the Bills hired Beane from the Panthers. Two ridiculous narratives then followed: 1) That the Bills were playing 3D chess in hiring a GM right after the draft and that hiring outside GM's after the draft and free agency were over would be the wave of the future. Still can't believe anyone was dumb enough to lap that sh*t up.........but they did...........and it hasn't happened since. 2) That being hired in early January was much too little time for McD and staff to evaluate QB's...........when in fact it is very much the NORMAL amount of time that new regimes have to scout QB's...........and Whaley and Pegs had in fact been on the road eying up Mahomes and Watson etc.. The only thing shrewd about it was having your guy serving as a mole on your old team and stealing draft info(directly himself or thru a certain scout who would be fired and subsequently join Buffalo in the coming seasons) so that McD could use the draft info of scouts he trusted. And Carolina not needing a QB at the time hadn't brought the top ones in for interviews.........so McD didn't have opinions on them from people he trusted.

When Beasley, McKenzie and Sanders leave this offseason..........which all seem likely for different reasons.........WR becomes a big and long-term need for a team that runs a lot of 3 wide. They could address that in FA but short term needs are definitely best addressed in UFA. If Phillips is re-signed and Oliver has his option picked up........as is to be expected in both cases........then DT becomes a short term need with Phillips and Oliver under contract in 2022-2023. Zimmer and Basham provide 3T options. A DT1T to provide 40% of the snaps can be found cheap in UFA. Keep in mind the Bills don't always employ a 1T or Nose.........when defending big leads they can go with two 3T........so it's not even a 100% snap position. If the Bills are going to draft a Georgia DT in round 1 they would be better off with the more versatile Devonte Wyatt..........315 and can play both 1T or be Oliver's replacement down the line. CB is a short term need if not really more of a "want".........as they can still be a top ranked defense with White, Johnson and Jackson and some reserves they like...........it's the position most easily coached and schemed upward in this D. Interior OL is a long term need with all but maybe Bates being unlikely to be with the team in 2023.

Yeah not sure what Davis is going to do about New England's Josh Allen problem.

He's not like Wilfork.........VW was built like a fire hydrant. Davis is built like Jordan Phillips. If he gets in better shape maybe he can be a different kind of player than he was at Georgia.............John Henderson was a great pass rusher at 6'7" 340............but he was built different and he played a different style in college. If Davis excels as a nose tackle type like a Wilfork or Snacks Harrison it will probably be a first time that some that tall had done so.

Yeah and it's rare when someone that tall and that heavy in the gut can actually play with the leverage needed in the run game to dominate at the level people will expect from this guy. It's easy to shrug off Jordan Phillips comparison because we've had the benefit of watching him get pushed around as a 1 tech when he got snaps there in Buffalo.............but his draft profile was as a "Read-and-react two-gap nose with ability to eat space and free linebackers". People expecting Davis to be Vince Wilfork or Damon Harrison don't understand how their short frame/long arms combinations worked to help them anchor and disengage.

Or if the Bengals lose and immediately go back to being a team of little interest around the country.............Carson missed his chance to land a blow to Mike Brown while people are actually paying attention to the team for the first time since he was traded.

It really might come down to "the heart wants what it wants". No matter how much data illustrates that individual RB play is not a key factor in team success.............they.......just.........can't........resist.......wanting to use the most irrational means and capital to attain their favorite RB's. This RB infatuation always lingers under the surface but the further people get away from the actual season...........when it's mostly clear you don't want a Josh Allen having the ball taken out of his hands for ANY RB who ever lived.........the more they start playing "football on paper in the minds".............suddenly if they had Nick Chubb instead of Devin Singletary the team could score 8 TD's every 7 possessions. By spring it's utter fantasy........and it's not just them runnin' bax.........they've talked themselves into Trent Edwards being able to run a no huddle offense and all we need now is a big run stuffing DT opposite a stud RB and the Bills will be "unstoppable".

Well one of the signatures of Buffalo area pizza is lot's of sugar in the sauce..........which causes puzzled looks from a lot of outta' towners the first time they try it. Mixes great with spicy cup and char pepperoni but if you are used to more traditional sour sauce then Buffalo pizza can be off-putting for the sauce.

Just pick up 6' 6" 340# Jordan PHILLIPS off the street when the Cardinals release him in the next month if you want a player that size with "off the charts physical gifts" that you can't trust to live up to them. At least that Jordan has actually played well in the NFL at times and would likely be dirt cheap. Or wait until late in the draft and take a shot at one of the other equally gigantic but unsung DT's that are available in this draft. Save your #1 pick for someone that plays a position with a $30M aav ceiling because there are always good run defending DT's available for reasonable rates in UFA.

Ridder doesn't even have a traditionally "strong" arm IMO. He reminds me a lot of former Miami Hurricane and one-time extremely overhyped talent Brad Kaaya.

Yeah a lot of people think Reggie White was the best DE of all time............and Erik Williams made him look like a bum. Once threw a full blanket on him in a playoff game.......zeroes across the board statistically.

Cool! Don't put a roof on the Caesar's Sports Lounge in the new stadium either.........let's make gambling more interesting too!

It seems like when guys fall out with McDermott some kind of practice habit issue is often at the core. Being a "process" guy he probably sees a player who is careless on the practice field as a threat to keeping the rest of the team focused. Hard to argue with the results as a whole.........though there are certainly times when they've clearly not used their best personnel.

Yeah he's a 3T only..........he was worse than 2021 Vernon Butler at 1T..........and assuming they re-sign Zimmer(which might not be assuming too much) he wouldn't seem like a lock to get a lot of snaps.

I can only chalk up the ridiculous notion to the fact that Beane was extremely careless with cap dollars in 2018-2019 and some fans still think that paying a $6M to a backup LB or washed up Josh Norman is some kind of going rate for low impact additions..........and therefore $7M isn't too bad for a shot at a former "generational RB" talent. Beane was AWFUL at the cap for 2+ offseasons..........terrible...........$5M-$7M deals for reserve OL........all kinds of wasteful.........and he's still too kind to some of his own players in restructure deals.........but even if only out of necessity he's been a lot sharper with the pencil in signing key players and adding talent from other teams now that he has less cap room to work with. He's done a 150 if not a full 180. People really don't seem to understand that $7.2M for any RB in 2022 is a TON..........let alone a guy who has been useless for the past two years.