BADOLBILZ

I wouldn't be concerned at all about the stalled drives from the Jets game............it seemed to me that Daboll was just trying to get Allen a pocket passing game to sharpen that aspect up and not get him beat up. They played the last Patriots game like every drive mattered and punting was not an option so I'd expect more of that.

The big stat for me is 82 catches both seasons but 53 1st downs in 2020 and just 34 in 2021. He actually had a "vintage" Beasley conversion early in the Jets game......but he has come up short of the sticks over and over this year. Last year he was getting some RAC. They weren't a good RAC team in 2020 either but the WR corps is really lousy wrt RAC this year.

Yep this is at least plausible explanation for the video clip. And I'm sure you don't run up $100K in protocol fines during the year without being a source of irritation to your head coach so it wouldn't be surprising if McDermott was a bit irked with Beasley still being on the field when the team was already lined up to punt. All the covid stuff aside........it's just Beasley being Beasley. He was beloved in Dallas but when he got a top dollar slot-WR contract from Buffalo to leave......he went out of his way to take totally unnecessary shots at the organization/team and then fought with the fans on social media etc.. And that's his home town. That was a red flag right there that he can turn on his own people fast.

I saw him pacing and yelling by the benches when I looked back down to see what was happening after the punt. When I came out to the tailgate the guys who sit the lowest were already talking about Beasley yelling "I'm done" by the benches when I walked up. And like I said.......that little bit that was caught on tv at the last second wasn't all of it. I would not have even seen just that interaction on the white if that was it. He was gesturing and yelling toward McDermott before he even got to the sideline. Maybe there was a second incident. I was pretty sure that was the play but I wasn't taking notes and attention quickly turned to making noise on D. I apologize if people are hurt and disappointed because I found proof of something very much like what I said I saw. Bottom line........Beasley looked to be yelling at McDermott. Whether that's important or not is subject to debate. Personally, I assume McD might have been distracted by it in the moment but in general I believe he's probably used to him being a distraction and making things unnecessarily difficult by now.

In the video Beasley's head doesn't follow the line judge.........it follows McDermott as he walks past and behind him......the line judge is to the right of his sightline and he never looks back at her...........so it's more likely that he's talking to McDermott. McDermott then paces down the sideline and doesn't even watch the punt go off.

Yeah I would say that this adds a little fuel to Dungy/Frazier combo rumor machine.

Yes it did. I say this at risk of disbelievers attacking me............but he supposedly hit a top speed of 20.2 mph last night. I know this only on account of the Bills showing it on the scoreboard over and over all night...........it was apparently one of the fastest peak speeds of the day in the NFL.

Dick Jauron was lucky that most grocery stores weren't offering those full size paper beauties anymore in his day.........otherwise we'd all have been wearing them. You had to go to Niagara County Produce or a farm market to get one of them. Tough break for Joe Judge getting that job in the paper bag revival era.

Yeah I really wasn't trying to add color to the experience here...........just curious if anyone knew what the hell was going on there. The closest season tickets in our group are among the oldest still around........mid 1960's.........and they are close enough to see a ton of stuff that is never shown on TV and see and hear conversations on the sideline and among the players families etc.. so there are plenty of colorful stories I could share but I know better than that. I once posted about a huge fight in Hammer's Lot among opposing fans........it was right by the road........hundreds of people witnessed it............but when I talked about it here I was told I was lying and a long since banished mod tried to suspend me just for talking about Fight Club. That got overturned quick, I almost didn't know it even happened otherwise I wouldn't have to remind that seat sniffer about it every chance I get...........but I digress.......the moral of the story is too many trolls and jealous souls on TSW to share anything colorful that doesn't come with video evidence, two forms of ID, a crud card and certificate of authenticity from The Franklin Mint.

Haterade only comes in 50 gallon drums and anxieties are high leading up to a playoff game against the Patriots so people are looking for something to be emotional about.

I believe it's the play but he was yelling at McDermott while he was still in the field of play.......that's why I noticed it........and McDermott was ignoring him. In the clip McDermott looks at him, says something back and then completely misses the punt.........he sure looked distracted by what was going on there.

Again........this wasn't the interaction I saw. McDermott then proceeds to not even watch the punt..........he certainly looked distracted. I haven't watched the 4th yet..........did Beasley return to action?

Man, you are a jealous suburbanite.

To clarify..........the OP did not say there was anything to worry about. At this point I think Beasley would have to do A LOT to be a distraction..........angry is his brand now. Sometimes the broadcast just catches an interaction like what I saw and runs with the story and you find out why the player was so furious. They love that sh!t. There didn't appear to be reason for him to be so angry. And no, he wasn't yelling at the official when he came off the field.

That's like 10 seconds or so later. The part that I saw myself happened about 5-6 seconds into the play clock.........this is after........nearly 20 seconds after the play was over. At this point I am watching the punt praying for no f*ckup. I hadn't seen this part until I re-watched it on TV. The first time McDermott didn't acknowledge him. I'm not saying this is a big deal............they know Beasley is a pain in the ass at this point. He made some good plays in the game. I don't know what happened on that last play but he was ripsh!t at McDermott when he first headed off the field.

Yes, this was the drive. Allen threw it on the run toward Beasley.

I didn't think I saw it. I did see it. I was just curious if it had been discussed. Beasley came off the field furious, yelled and and pointed at McDermott and and was grabbed by the shoulder and I assumed that was it. At that point I looked up for the punt. But then on the video feed I now see just prior to the punt (20 seconds after the incomplete pass in his direction) he must have looped back around to get another word in at which point McDermott actually said something back........then Micah Hyde escorted him back to the bench.

I'll have to re-watch it and isolate the play but it was a failed 3rd down pass in the center of the field, going into the wind, and well into Jets territory. The near event on the sideline probably happened around the 35 yard line.

I thought maybe Beasley missed an incentive or something because McKenzie was getting more snaps...........it was really hard to tell what he was b!tching about. The thing about the wind in that stadium is that it's usually totally calm in the lower bowl stands but on the field it's raging...........that was the case last night...........as it was for the Ravens playoff game last year. We really don't feel it in the lower stands. The wind outside the stadium was really blowing hard all day and I'm sure they showed the upper stadium flags which were rigid all game. That's what they were dealing with on the field.

I got back late last night so didn't see game thread or re-watch the game so not sure if it was discussed...... But after a 3rd down pass to Beasley went incomplete he ran off the field screaming at McDermott and throwing his hand at him in frustration. McDermott was walking briskly in his direction like he wanted to kick his ass....... but at the last second appeared to be pretending to not notice him. Someone on staff spun Beasley by the shoulder and escorted him to the bench area. Beasley was pacing around audibly yelling "I'm done, I'm done". Did you guys see this on the broadcast? Was it discussed in the postgame? I guess that's probably just 2021 Beasley being 2021(in 2022) Beasley but it was noteworthy.

Well.......Wilson and the wind were just as much of a factor as the Bills pass rush. I had the distinct feeling that Daboll was determined to just have Josh throw from the pocket all game to avoid injury. That's not what's been working in this weather. Ended up being the least physical abuse he's taken in a game in months. Mission accomplished.

It's not "this"...........it's more of a you thing. dave was simply pointing out some unusual numbers. Maybe you feel like you gotta' stand up for Josh now since you had very negative emotions on this board about the Bills drafting him but you can never make up for that, you'll always be the guy that hated the Josh Allen pick. He's great..........but sh*t weather and other factors have not made it easy to pile up stats this year.

I can't give you evidence of the future because it hasn't happened yet.........just like they didn't know that the majority of the games played in Rich Stadium would be played in an era of player free agency. The outdoor stadium crowd is mostly just thinking about what's important now. I'm banking on significant change. Higher costs of attendance, more player freedom, a less violent but faster and more skillful game with a lot more technology on the field, a season that continues to stretch deeper into winter and less fans wanting to shell out those big bucks to sit out in that cold all seem like good plays to me. And if you want to pretend that the prospect of playing in the league's worst weather hasn't hurt the Bills chances of signing players in UFA..........even in a system where the owners have much more control over players than they will in the future.........then you do you. To paraphrase Lee Smith on the sideline last game..........nobody likes being out in this sh*t.

All it needs to do is potentially house 13 Bills games per season.........with good teams or bad......and not be a deterrent to acquiring players(who will have increasingly more freedom of movement).....at a much greater cost per game for the next 40 years. Leaving it without a cover is a huge gamble for what will seem to have been peanuts at the mid-life of the structure. I'd be OK with the idea of making the facility so that a roof could eventually be added later(which apparently the Bills have considered)............but when is that work going to get done? And what will THAT cost THEN as a renovation instead of part of a new build? $2B more outlay in 2040? What kind of compromised product will they end up with if they first "half cover" it like Seattle did? People need to keep in mind that most of the structures like Seattle and Pittsburgh and NE that we see as proof of "outdoor viability" in the north are well into their operating lives and IMO will eventually be replaced with domes because the season is going to end up stretching until the end of February soon. The Bills stadium will be 20-30 years younger than those places. Buffalo will be stuck with what they have. As I've noted.........5 of the last 7 NFL stadiums to be built have been domes. Future football will be played mostly indoors.