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That clip is the perfect example of what Tremaine lacks..........he would just run straight at Marshawn Lynch on that play as the ball falls to the turf behind him.

As I've said..........I would love that Edmunds for Sweat trade......... but Washington loses that cap exchange by over $10M as Sweat is just in year 4 of his deal...........and though Sweat has underwhelmed he is still a high ceiling pass rusher so he's probably worth more than a 2 time Pro Bowl LB who isn't nearly as good on tape as that sounds. Edmunds to Houston for Brandin Cooks is probably more realistic........two expiring contracts, approx same value. But maybe someone out there really values Edmunds' upside more than I think the tape indicates they should.

Reminder..........Gabe Davis has put an average of 574 yards in his first two seasons..........Metcalf has averaged over 1,000 yards per year in his 3. Actually producing in volume matters. I'm not predicting that Gabe is going to fail..........but to put it in perspective...........he hasn't actually had a more impressive regular season than 2018 Robert Foster yet. Foster put up 541 yards at a clip of 20 yards per reception and a catch rate over 60%............and he has practically vanished since. Sometimes small sample sizes don't translate..........and that's all we've gotten from Gabe so far.........reportedly in part because of nagging ankle and foot injuries in 2020-2021.

Imagine an instinctive LB in the middle of this defense

The obvious answer is Diggs goes to the slot. That doesn't mean it's a solution that Diggs would find satisfactory..........but he'd instantly be the league's best slot receiver.

Yeah the 0 pressures on 76 blitzes in 2020 was definitely less than impressive blitz work.

Get in line

You "trust" the process...........which last year included trying to sign Gronk...........but you are adamant that they should not sign Gronk?

Why do you think? He has a $16.5M cap hit. He's at an age where a defensive player is taking a fraction of the value their statistics would indicate they deserve if they were 26.

I hope so...........the Bills are STILL paying for that brutal 2018 free agent group he grossly overpaid............worst free agent class in Bills history. They could use the 70M+ in cap space they wasted on those clowns.

The Bills selected in the non-playoff team portion of round 1 for 16 straight seasons before the chance to select Patrick Mahomes fell in their lap in round 1..........and when they finally made the playoffs in 2017 exactly ZERO of the drought era first round picks were on the active roster in Jacksonville for that game. Basically the Doncos got a franchise QB for about 2 years worth of early picks while the Bills spent 16 years in the ***** desert. It's unconscionable that Seattle would trade a 34 year old elite franchise QB for that little return.

This thread looks like something someone would start in November when they have no idea who the players involved might be..........we are a week from FA and the combine is over..........wtf

If they hadn't picked up Edmunds' 5th year option Beane would be saying Tremaine earned the right to go into free agency.........and likely glad he dodged that bullet..........and Klein would just be getting a pay cut.

Christian Kirk had 9.5 yards per target last season..........Stefon Diggs had 7.5 yards per target...........players tend to get more targets and production because they get open. Gronk was far better than Knox last season.........he's in a much different class as a blocker(elite) and he averaged 14.6 yards per catch.........and has averaged 15 yards per catch for HIS CAREER. This is why he is maybe the greatest TE of all time. Dawson Knox is good and seems to be ascending but they have nothing behind him.

Gronk is the only player you mentioned who played at an elite level last year. He's the only star in a very deep TE free agent class. Even if he wasn't a native WNY'er, one of the NFL's biggest celebrities and a long time rival he would be a bigger splash to the average Bills fan than those 3.

He's an unrestricted free agent. Yes if super cheap and better options fall thru.

Yeah he had a higher ypc and more TD's..........but Ertz had higher catch and yardage numbers. Gronk blew BOTH Ertz and Knox out of the water with his 14.6 ypc and near 70 yards per game receiving............that's why Gronk is the only "star" TE in this free agent market.

He actually played really well after the trade to Arizona.........about 5 catches and 50 yards per game.........that would project to the best receiving season for a Bills TE in team history. Lotta' talented TE's on the market but Gronk would be the best option, IMO.

2nd round busts are a tradition for the Bills. The "OK, NOW we can fill a need here....and then get BPA's later" drafting in round 2 has been palpable............IMO it's a function of spending months fixating on the 1st round pick..........then the emotions after the result are often followed by a loss of focus. It's a common problem in situations where business deals are layered...........which is what the draft really is..........a series of business acquisitions..........and it's proven to be a problem from one Bills GM to the next. Beane is not immune..........the Bills imbedded with Beane saying "we need a tackle" while scrambling up the board for Cody Ford was a jarring example of losing discipline and focus on the process. The Bills track record with second round picks when they don't have a 1st rounder is MUCH better........Thurman Thomas, Sam Cowart, Roscoe Parrish, Ronald Darby and now AJ Epenesa.............that's 60% guys who played Pro Bowl or better type ball for the Bills and the jury is still out on Epenesa. And I think that generally reflects a more measured approach made possible from "the event" being less emotionally charged at the top.

Said it then........but picking up Edmunds' $12.7M option was clearly a mistake when they could have just transition tagged him for $2M more in the event that he had a REAL breakout season. His option figure was bloated by two Pro Bowl trips that made him look like a top 4 MLB in the NFL when he was just more like a top 10. Would have liked to see what playing to EARN that money would have done for him.........it's just human nature to play better when you have something on the line..........which Edmunds did not since his 2022 salary was already full guaranteed last spring. This year, Ed Oliver seems like a lock to get his option picked up as it's only $10M. The transition is currently about $3.5M more than that and the full on FT is about $7M more. Basically the spread is much higher than with Edmunds. Then they can save the tag if needed to use on Dawson Knox in 2023 if necessary as the TT/FT at TE will be much lower than a top TE aav.

Well leading up to that draft Dareus was just a fun-loving dude from maybe the worst hardship case we'd ever heard of for such a highly regarded prospect and he not only played for for a NC he had the play of the game.........a pick 6 on Colt McCoy in that game. His Q rating was high and he immediately became a favorite with Bills fans as "Mr. Big Stuff". So not sure where the "always" part was but if you felt that way without any evidence then you are quite the cynic(or as a Dogs fan, just a hater). I try not to put too much stock in what the kids say in the draft process but Jordan Davis' "this isn't the end" takes after his on field workouts at the combine are the kind of things that people with nearby finish lines say. If you are planning to have a long NFL career and have lot's of success then you might not be noting that it's not the end when it hasn't even started yet.

Not a big splash to someone who is into the NFL enough to spend a lot of time on message boards and know who most NFL starters are............but I tailgate with tons of people who are only about the Bills.........and that is a good representation of most season ticket holders and Bills fans in general, IMO...........and Gronk is a top 10-20 name in the league to them. It would be a huge splash to the general Bills public.

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Let's not get carried away here..........it's not like they locked him up at that figure for a decade like KC did with Mahomes..........that gives KC a lot more flexibility to make adjustments to his deal to create cap room. When they have to........have to........re-visit Allen's deal in the next few years time the new market will be $60M+ and then the years they add on will either have to be at those aav's or Allen will have to take a discount. We should hope that he turns into the greatest product shill ever in the meantime so he might be inclined to take a bit less.

There were a lot of people on TSW who were all about Kirk Cousins in 2016-2017.