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2nd round busts are a tradition for the Bills. The "OK, NOW we can fill a need here....and then get BPA's later" drafting in round 2 has been palpable............IMO it's a function of spending months fixating on the 1st round pick..........then the emotions after the result are often followed by a loss of focus. It's a common problem in situations where business deals are layered...........which is what the draft really is..........a series of business acquisitions..........and it's proven to be a problem from one Bills GM to the next. Beane is not immune..........the Bills imbedded with Beane saying "we need a tackle" while scrambling up the board for Cody Ford was a jarring example of losing discipline and focus on the process. The Bills track record with second round picks when they don't have a 1st rounder is MUCH better........Thurman Thomas, Sam Cowart, Roscoe Parrish, Ronald Darby and now AJ Epenesa.............that's 60% guys who played Pro Bowl or better type ball for the Bills and the jury is still out on Epenesa. And I think that generally reflects a more measured approach made possible from "the event" being less emotionally charged at the top.

Said it then........but picking up Edmunds' $12.7M option was clearly a mistake when they could have just transition tagged him for $2M more in the event that he had a REAL breakout season. His option figure was bloated by two Pro Bowl trips that made him look like a top 4 MLB in the NFL when he was just more like a top 10. Would have liked to see what playing to EARN that money would have done for him.........it's just human nature to play better when you have something on the line..........which Edmunds did not since his 2022 salary was already full guaranteed last spring. This year, Ed Oliver seems like a lock to get his option picked up as it's only $10M. The transition is currently about $3.5M more than that and the full on FT is about $7M more. Basically the spread is much higher than with Edmunds. Then they can save the tag if needed to use on Dawson Knox in 2023 if necessary as the TT/FT at TE will be much lower than a top TE aav.

Well leading up to that draft Dareus was just a fun-loving dude from maybe the worst hardship case we'd ever heard of for such a highly regarded prospect and he not only played for for a NC he had the play of the game.........a pick 6 on Colt McCoy in that game. His Q rating was high and he immediately became a favorite with Bills fans as "Mr. Big Stuff". So not sure where the "always" part was but if you felt that way without any evidence then you are quite the cynic(or as a Dogs fan, just a hater). I try not to put too much stock in what the kids say in the draft process but Jordan Davis' "this isn't the end" takes after his on field workouts at the combine are the kind of things that people with nearby finish lines say. If you are planning to have a long NFL career and have lot's of success then you might not be noting that it's not the end when it hasn't even started yet.

Not a big splash to someone who is into the NFL enough to spend a lot of time on message boards and know who most NFL starters are............but I tailgate with tons of people who are only about the Bills.........and that is a good representation of most season ticket holders and Bills fans in general, IMO...........and Gronk is a top 10-20 name in the league to them. It would be a huge splash to the general Bills public.

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Let's not get carried away here..........it's not like they locked him up at that figure for a decade like KC did with Mahomes..........that gives KC a lot more flexibility to make adjustments to his deal to create cap room. When they have to........have to........re-visit Allen's deal in the next few years time the new market will be $60M+ and then the years they add on will either have to be at those aav's or Allen will have to take a discount. We should hope that he turns into the greatest product shill ever in the meantime so he might be inclined to take a bit less.

There were a lot of people on TSW who were all about Kirk Cousins in 2016-2017.

Yeah I suppose you look a lot more skillful when the ball is easier to control..........much like NFL receivers(or Kenny Pickett) with these crazy tacky gloves..........or NFL DB's in the early 80's with stick 'em (you missed that era lol). I knew this was likely to be a fast class..........Jameson Williams might be the fastest player I've ever seen in college last season.........he was making great athletes look foolish. But for nearly EVERY position group to be the fastest ever..........that's a red flag. Still.......lotta', lotta' athletes in this one.

Part of me wonders if they didn't intentionally speed up that 40 yard dash track to encourage future participants to run. Put some fresh, tacky rubber pallets in and pack them down so it's more like a track than a field. The combine has such a big TV audience now that having players opt not to perform because they think they can do better at their pro day doesn't make sense. Football doesn't provide that many opportunities to skew performance but US sports fans are very familiar with major league baseball intentionally altering the baseball to make it spin faster or travel further(or not as far) so we are familiar with such shenanigans.

I hope so.........Matt Haack was the only free agent they signed to a multi-year deal and they basically addressed NONE of the things that they said were needs after the AFCCG loss in KC. Manny Sanders was the big signing and it was hard to get too excited about getting slower at WR. Breida and Lamp were fun 1 year lottery tickets but neither had much production in their past.

DT is the position on the field where "want to" is the most important part of the evaluation, IMO. You need baseline talent.........but ceilings and floors on top DT prospects tend to be the players with the greatest separation. I like drafting them at a point where they are incentivized to play hard from day one..........we will see if the draft process plays out this way but there are a lot of physically capable/talented DT prospects that project going in day 3 and I think the Bills need to come away with 1 or 2 of them.

Kirk was a phenomenal freshman........seemed destined to be a 1st rounder right off the bat........and though he leveled off as a sophomore and junior he was a big time producer at a big school..........and the 3 years prior had been poor WR drafts so the league was STARVING for WR's. A lot has changed since then.........2018 started a run of WR drafts that has flooded the league with talent........though at the time teams were still stinging from prior let downs and that's how guys like AJ Brown and Metcalf slipped, IMO.

Yep.........pay them! The more teams spend on QB's the cheaper the pickings will be at other positions in UFA over the course of JA's prime.

I agree that OL is priority #1 IMO and Beane has said as much............but Gronk would be a much higher profile deal with Bills fans and he is an extension of the OL and overall protection as well. I like Tomlinson........but from a distance I don't see a fit............he will be looking to make his first big score in UFA and he has already been part of a SB contending team. I actually see Scherff as a better match..........he has already made a ton of money playing for bad teams..........maybe he looks at a 5 year deal with Buffalo at a $2M-$3M aav discount as a way to win SB's while playing in a football rabid town with a very stable organization that has great facilities and a track record for keeping players healthy. Cinci is often cited as his destination but they don't quite check all of those same boxes.

It's odd that you think Tim Graham made that "Gronk interest" story up because he didn't cite his source.............when you have at the same time noted elsewhere that agents and team personnel can't discuss other teams players in this time period. Agents are floating out stories they want heard.........the media are going to run with that. Way too much hand-wringing about the quality of journalism at a time of year when we know that agents and teams are already negotiating contracts behind the scenes.

Yeah and this draft is LOADED with guys who have shown some good things on tape and have outstanding measurables............but haven't ACTUALLY dominated..........the 3 Georgia DL are all good examples of bigger school guys who didn't actually make a lot of plays that evaluators can hang their hats on as proof of what they will do at the next level. And those aren't the guys who would normally come to mind first........those might be guys like Mafe or Christian Watson or Woolen etc.. There is a lot of projecting to be done in this draft. I think it's living up to the hype from a year ago as being "very deep" but the reason why it wasn't that clear earlier is that there was a lot of late blooming and some of that might be due to two years of covid setbacks/limitations.

Dareus was considered an inspirational story of overcoming hardship coming out of Alabama. There was no evidence of any potential motivation issues with him whatsoever. And of course he was a much, much greater prospect than Davis......which is why he went high in a loaded top 10. Dareus was a play maker not just a big body who made no plays but showed lots of track speed. We know you are a Georgia fan and they have a bunch of great athletes in this draft but you are showing your lack of overall perspective here.

I think you can put the quote right in....... "TMZ asked Kirk directly if he was angling to get to Buffalo." "Possibly," he deftly responded. "Like I said, I'm just going to let my team and people that are helping me make the decision help me out. We'll see where it goes."

You are up in your feels. That's not how you make good decisions. And I wouldn't obsess about Henry anymore........he had one long run in that Bills game but his play production dropped off A LOT prior to his injury........barely above average ypc. After all that hard mileage his trajectory is downward.

IMO, they now have to change their "we need to be 2 deep with vets" at every position mentality with regards to contracts and instead focus available assets on protecting Josh Allen and making him look good............and get better at developing some of the positions they've been overpaying for depth at. If Denver were to come to Beane tomorrow and offer their two second rounders(40 and 64) and a 4th in exchange for #25 overall............so they had an extra 1st to deal to GB...........then I would say they should probably take it. They need talent on rookie contracts.

There is depth into the 4th-5th rounds at a lot of positions.........that's no excuse to reach for need........especially in this draft. When you stray from the principle of drafting THE BEST player at one of the premium postions in round 1...........you risk making a huge mistake........whether they bust or just become a JAG. There is a very good chance that the best, most potentially impactful player available to them will be Jameson Williams. The guy literally looked like he made Alabama better than Georgia...........with all of that talent on the field he was the biggest difference maker on both sides of the ball. I don't love the idea of taking a guy with an injury like that because I think he might need a full redshirt season to get back to his past level of health/speed/explosiveness.......and even a 95% version of that might make him pretty ordinary as an inexperienced player in the NFL. But you gotta' treat the draft like an ongoing process of roster building rather than an extension of free agency where you patch holes. And round 1 is where you get the STARS..........not the base DE's or CB2's or players at lesser valued positions like RB, G, C, S or LB.

Actually Rousseau ran a 4.68 with a 1.57 10 yard split versus Davis 4.78 and 1.68. Basham ran a 4.64. In the open field it doesn't matter if you weigh 270 or 340. Davis has to excel in tight quarters to be great.........and much of what makes Davis seem special.......like running "track fast" for a fat guy.........isn't functionally very useful at his position.............he's going to have to have a lot of want-to to excel between the tackles when he is fighting a leverage disadvantage. He couldn't block well enough to play TE.....pads too high.😉

In the NFL that will just be a face full of rubber pellets for Davis.........and still a first down either way.

Maybe. Spencer Brown was an all-time workout warrior last draft season and he played a much higher in demand position at tackle..........and he went 3rd round. There was actual first round chatter about Spencer Brown. https://www.si.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft/hot-take-tuesday-spencer-brown-worthy-of-first-round-selection

The caps will of course go up..........but the Bills cap situation is worse than it should be at this stage in their development...........even with normal risk factored in they should be about $30M below the cap without having to do heavy re-structure work. They are up against it because Beane inexplicably paid starting money for depth players in UFA over the years like Josh Norman or Ty Nsekhe.............and hung on too long to expensive players that he initially overpaid in UFA like Lotulelei, Trent Murphy and Vernon Butler. He was throwing around $5M deals at every AJ McCarron and Quinton Spain within reach and then dumping those guys just months later. That stuff ADDS UP. $4M may not seem like much to pay a player but if that player is washed and unreliable...........and it's reasonable to expect that's the case with Lotulelei...........that kind of nickel and diming is what got them up against the cap in the first place.