BADOLBILZ

I would be interested in joining a class action suit against the Bills for making us watch "The Stampede" as a halftime show

I'd love to see a link to the highlighted...........his reputation is quite the opposite...........all business and excellent preparation/study habits but a guy who enjoys himself fully in his free time.

Here's the thing about that analogy...........the NFL is an extremely violent sport..........what Gronk did was illegal but it wasn't much different than what happened to receivers(or in this case interceptors) who fell down in the middle of the field with the ball for about the first 90 years of the NFL. It's not walking up and coldcocking a woman. Maybe if your daughter and fiancée were always physically assaulting each other then it doesn't seem so outrageously out of context when one of them cheap shots the other. The domestic environment is much different that a violent sport like football and it wasn't the intention of the analogy to equate the two. And context is ALSO important......White was all over Gronk........he was dragging behind Gronks stretched shirt and then faced him up and interfered with him again as the ball arrived..........it was a clearly missed hold and then a missed PI................and as Gronk said.......frustration boiled over and White was there with his ill-gotten gain on the ground and Gronk took a cheap shot a fraction of a second after one of his teammates touched White to make sure he was down. If Dawson Knox did the same thing to JC Jackson the same people hating Gronk would be insisting that he shouldn't even be suspended because the officials caused his act of frustration by blowing two obvious penalties on the same play...........therefore causing the melt down. That's how fans operate in the moment.........but for chrissakes 5 years later people should have some better perspective and be able to get over it.

I saw the Frank Gore comps to Walker.........so he looks like a guy coming back from two torn up knees in an era where those were harder to recover from. It's a shame that Gore will only be remembered for being just that kind of high use, modest explosion kinda' back.............he was going to be Marshall Faulk with power before he blew out both his knees in college. Crazy to think how many yards he could have put up.

Crazy Eddie is buying the Sabres from Pegula and a lot of prime commercial real estate in Buffalo.........he made a score with his real estate moves in DC.........maybe a stadium downtown isn't a necessity.

38 points per game would be a new NFL record...........it stands to reason that someone will do that in the near future, IMO............and it's do-able for the Bills in 2022 if they fix the OL issues that plagued them most of the season and add a bit more playmaking ability. But what they did at the end of the season required rushing Josh Allen about 10x per game, that is not sustainable.

I've been talking about this for a while now...........but the financial day of reckoning for WR's is coming...........the pipeline is beginning to over-fill and even though WR's are huge difference makers, supply and demand still applies............anyone who pays $20M+ for a WR on a long term deal this winter is likely to regret it in a year or two. If I am Gabe Davis watching that combine yesterday..........I'm thinking I just lost some money down the road..........and may end up playing out my rookie contract before I get a new deal.

One of the reasons the Bills are so vanilla up front is because Edmunds has been an unconscionably ineffective inside blitzer. McD used to love him so of those double A gap blitzes in Carolina...........but most great blitzers have an extraordinary sense for how the OL is going to react to them and are always one step ahead.......Edmunds has been totally devoid of that extra sense.

Beane is squarely not-not in the camp that Edmunds can be elite.

Ok so we can expect "Put me down as a solid NO!" on all veteran free agents who might say they are coming to Buffalo because they "want to win". Will be looking forward to your disclaimer for every such free agent............not just the obvious guys with deep local ties, huge production in 2021 but also with HOF credentials and a handful of SB rings types.

You are thinking of "End Racism". "Stop Hate" is a much broader message about the divisiveness caused by indulging hate. Here is a local success story who most of us are old enough to be a parent to who had one isolated incident 5 years ago where nobody was hurt and he paid the price for it and apologized and we have people here who are glorifying hating him like it's a badge of honor. If the debate is whether Gronkowski can still play or if any TE is worth $7M-$9M is........then that's one thing............but dredging up a play that resulted in no harm from years ago and insisting that your team should never acquire anyone from a certain other team(as many have) is obviously placing foolhardy limits on team management in a highly competitive league.

Hatefulness and being unforgiving is just "a point of view"? That's the kind of take that has brought us to have to see these messages on Sunday's now.

They should be able to create $20M-$35M with cuts and re-structures if they want to. Gronk is projected at $7M next year by spotrac. The easiest thing would be to cut Beasley.......save $6.1M........sign Gronk for one year $7M but put $1M-$3M of that figure into the 2023 using a "voidable year" like they did with Emmanuel Sanders and Mario Addison last season.

Why? In what world is it healthy or a good character trait to not be able to forgive someone for such a minor transgression in the big picture 5 years later? Is this real life or a bunch of online Tony Soprano wanna-be's? Virtue signaling on Gronk while embracing your own inner azzhol is apparently OK because HE did it first.

All these blazin' times! The value of the #25 pick is skyrocketing.........just think of the quality of injured RB that the Bills can trade it for now!

What say Muppy and Rocky?

Well those weren't the terms of his suspension Bongo........you can't re-litigate it now.........there was nothing about prohibiting him from ever playing for his hometown team and Beane already attempted to sign him last winter..........so they already went to your "fair enough" point last offseason. People are free to be all up in their feels about it.........didn't say they weren't..........there is just nothing to gain whatsoever from holding onto it............but like I said, it's been amusing.

Anyone who understands that he's a RB who has been lousy the past 2 seasons and will consume 8 digits of salary cap space every year while also costing them a potential inexpensive franchise building block(after they already squandered a #1 on a RB in 2020)? It would be insanely stupid.............would love to see the Chiefs do it............only downside is that it would make it easier for the Chargers to make their move when it blows up in KC's face.

"You can't blame them" is almost without exception a pre-cursor to justify some stupid decision that someone made. I'm not immune to emotion wrt players.........I've openly expressed my "hate" for Matthew Judon on TSW.............IMO he's been the dirtiest player in the league since he was drafted and in Josh Allen's first game as a pro he cheap shotted him several times with plays that were much more likely to cause Allen to miss time with injury than the Gronkowski flop. But unlike some of our emo's on this board, I know the value of not letting those emotions control me. Judon gets no real estate in my mind, even when he plays the Bills. There is nothing to gain from that other than looking weak, stupid and victimized...........and if you let your feels beat you like that in business, well then you are REALLY f*cked. So, yeah, you CAN blame people for the state they choose to put themselves in. The hate for Gronk is for a heat of the moment incident that is entirely inconsistent with his entire, distinguished HOF career.........and it's something that happened 4 and a half years ago and was addressed with both an apology and the loss of the player to the team for a game and the player losing a $300K game check. What more do you want for something that resulted in no injury? Being perpetually mad about something that happened to someone else and resulted in no harm is ridiculous to me...........but I get a lot of laughs out of ridiculous stuff like that. People who can't keep their sh*t together can be very entertaining if nothing else.

He's a PENDING free agent..........how many free agents-in-wait do you see talking openly about what "other" team they would prefer to play for in the 2-3 week period before they hit the market?(when agents and teams are covertly, but secretly to no one in the league, setting up deals that will be characterized as thrown together quickly just minutes into free agency). This is almost as nonsensical as Happless calling out Tim Graham for not citing the team or agent source for his rumor about the Bills having interest in Gronk when the team would be subject to fines and a loss of draft picks and the agent fined and sanctioned for openly discussing "not free yet" agents weeks prior to them actually being "free". Every day further into the offseason we get the more many fans forget how things actually work.

You see this is why I think many of the Edmunds defenders just have a vague grasp of the other players at ILB/MLB. Devin White had another very good season.........he's better than Edmunds, no doubt.........you are thinking about the other off-ball high selection LB named Devin.........Devin Bush, who struggled returning from injury. David is not a WLB.........he plays in a 3-4 not a 4-3........his responsibilities are different than either Edmunds or Milano but he is absolutely an ILB. Demario Davis has been good for a number of years now..........he wasn't the All Pro that he is now early in his career but that was a LONG time ago. Campbell had a tremendous year..........1st team All Pro in a league where there is a fairly obvious group of studs at the position.........none of which are Tremaine Edmunds.

It's laughable the lengths people go to be mad at Gronk. Dude had no choice where he was drafted..........he got passed on by his hometown/favorite team in the draft...........did his job at a high level.........didn't treat Buffalo worse than any other opponent(though he probably had cause to for passing on him).........and yet people are ultimately mad/jealous because he did his job well elsewhere and that some of that involved beating an uncompetitive Buffalo team for the better part of a decade. The whole Tre White thing is just nonsense...........heat of the moment mistake.........he apologized(which most of them didn't even know about)...........and his explanation of the situation is consistent with the idea that he didn't enjoy playing for Belichick and why he would soon prematurely retire........but our emo's can't run with THAT they gotta' make it about his disdain for Buffalo or Tre or some other nonsense.

So a guy from southern CA thinks that a player whose family lives in Buffalo and operates their family business here would choose cap-strapped Buffalo to be the town where he came to steal one last fat pay check? Some of the takes from you emotional decision makers in this thread are utter nonsense..........but many of them are entertainingly stupid. And what would be your proof of the latter?

Yeah if the position WASN'T different how do you suppose the uninstinctive Edmunds would look playing it? The only part of his game ANYONE thinks is extraordinary is his mystical presence in pass coverage(despite his approx 110 combined passer rating against the past 2 seasons). The reality is that most of the people who think Edmunds is a top of the league ILB/MLB do it because they just don't even know who most of the players are who man the positions around the league. You can't even begin a list of top ILB's without both Lavonte David and Devin Smith of Tampa. DeVondre Campbell was first team All Pro..........you don't think he's better than Edmunds right now? Demario Davis also an All Pro......and he ain't a new addition to the list of top ILB's. Beyond the vets and the 3 guys from Edmunds own draft class that have left him in the dust..........he's also got passed by a number of instinctive, young LB's the past couple of seasons..........he's been stuck in neutral...........and that's steadily decreased the impact he makes as teams exploit his weaknesses.........if you aren't getting better you are getting worse.

I'll start performing for you when you start throwing me treats. Wipe my slate clean or acknowledge that I am the all-time scoring leader in TSW history. Blah Blah Blah...........that's a lot of yapping to avoid making a simple, ordered list.