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If Kincaid can stay healthy he will be a excellent player and Dorsey will make good use of him, IMO. He fell because a lot of teams around the NFL felt that his injury situation and age were too concerning. I don't know the extent of his injuries and how it could impact him but as I stated elsewhere, the age doesn't bother me because other great TE's have started their pro career at his age and gone on to have HOF careers(Gates and Kelce, for example). I like the pick and can live with the trade-up........it wasn't a premium position technically.......but combined with Josh Allen he has the potential to have the impact on the field that a premium position player can have in changing the outcome of games with his individual matchup winning potential.

Of note: Some of those declined options are very related to the fact that the players do not play premium positions. A player doesn't have to reach his potential by year 3 for a team to pick up his 5th year option..............but if he hasn't yet........the potential cap hit better be reasonable for that position.

Brought back memories of 6'10" Mike Rockwood. Recently photographed in the worlds largest polo shirt.

Maybe this is the best hope for both instinctive and athletic enough Look good in preseason last year.

An argument can also be made that having players who separate is better for avoiding being bitten by refs not throwing flags for PI in the playoffs. But I get the point. It definitely seems that they took the issues in the loss(es) to Cincinnati to heart. In bad weather in Buffalo you want to throw more between the hashes and Kincaid hopefully allows that to become a strength. And if you have to throw outside......a large catch radius helps because Buffalo is probably the most difficult boundary to be deadly accurate throwing to in the NFL. Between the wind and the pronounced crown of the field there is a lot at play on out throws. It stuck in my mind that Burrow and Higgins get work done outside when the Bills could not. I heard it mentioned that OC's really like to isolate a TE on the short side of the field opposite trips to expose defensive intentions and Kincaid showed he can make an impact on the boundary so perhaps strides have been made in that regard. And I say losses plural because in the Damar game their offense stalled when Allen threw a pass too high for Beasley near the goal line resulting in them being down on the scoreboard before the incident. Beasley catches that pass in 2020.......but the point is that there was not much margin for error wrt ball placement in the slot with guys like Lil' Dummy and Beasley.......and they didn't have much else.

If they want to nurse a season out of Phillips they might have to limit him to 10-15 or so snaps a game. He can't stay healthy with a 40%-50% kinda' snap count. The Bills aren't big on "designated pass rushers" but that's probably his worth to the team. Lousy run defender anyway.

Chaos........you continue to come up with some contrived premises in the rush to share "found info" without perspective. At no point since McBeane arrived in town have the Bills fielded a young roster by league standards. They've consistently had one of the very oldest rosters each season at the start of seasons. Phillyvoice.com tracks this every year. Takes 5 seconds to search it. 2017 3rd oldest. 2018 5th oldest. 2019 7th oldest. 2020 10th oldest. 2021 6th oldest. 2022 6th oldest. They have averaged being the 6th oldest team in the NFL every year since McD arrived. Appreciate the enthusiasm but c'mon........this was an easy look-up.

Diggs did have a pretty great true freshman year, though. I'm really not sure what to make of Shorter never having a good season. Seems likely there has been a comparable player who has panned out but I can't think of one.

It feels like that because Star Lotulelei was such trash but it was only 4 years and 3 seasons actually played by The Polynesian Pylon. Dareus was playing excellent at 1 tech in 2017 before the trade and carried that over in Jax the rest of that year. Prior years, the KW and MD combo were excellent but different systems with very different asks of DT's. Daquan was just solid.........but yeah, it was a relief after the horrible Beane additions of 2018-2021.

Maybe, because he's under 6' but he actually has Nick Broeker length arms.......sub 33"......pretty normal length arms for an interior DL. The wingspan comes from his shoulder width.

At his age Daquon needs to be year to year. I'm really hoping for a MLB that doesn't need to be kept spotless. Instincts would be a nice change.

Like KW.......a fellow meatball......NT was probably the least of the bad fits for him in a 3-4. I think Carroll was just defending him for not being as impactful. He played 20% less snaps in 2022 than 2021.

Yeah see I was thinking 1 tech in Leslie Frazier Bills defense. Maybe it's an indicator that the Bills want more pass rush from the position and are less concerned about tying up blockers with a big body like Jones.......and with Tremaine gone and the style of defense likely to change a bit. If he pans out as a 1 tech for Buffalo.......he might be in line for a contract extension in Buffalo with Daquon moving on instead of being extended?

Yeah Seattle switched to a 3-4 last season. If people recall........the Bills did that when Chan took over and hired George Edwards. That forced Kyle Williams to play NT..........which was his best fit in THAT defense.........but he was terrible there. Awful. He either made a tackle or opened up a massive lane to run thru or the QB to step up thru. That's what happened to Poona Ford. He's not a real 2 gap NT. DT1T is supposed to give some pass rush but I don't think that's what you want there.

Yeah I thought Buffalo interested him in part because of the opportunity to get back to 3T and make plays. Al Woods was the 1T opposite him. He's a free agent too and a much better 1T than Ford. THAT guy is about on par with Daquon Jones. He's old as dirt but still good. Hopefully he follows Poona to Buffalo.

Who said Poona Ford was going to be the backup 1 tech? Beane? Poona Ford has played his best football over the outside shoulder of the guard..........which is Ed Oliver's position in the Bills D.......3T. I've always viewed him as a penetrating 3T.

Easley was like that. Hardest worker type. Very high character. The difference between those guys and good NFL WR's is the details. If you don't have them at a smaller size you don't even get a chance at the NFL. But the big guys sometimes do. Kumerow would shred practices but in game situations it was clear that his technique and hands weren't good enough to beat NFL CB's. Easley actually almost looked like he was going to make the jump to a starting NFL WR(which was admittedly a lower bar in the NFL back then) but then had a broken leg that cooked his career if I recall correctly.

Yeah, and I follow all that stuff. Every day I get updated on recruiting so I know most of these top guys and that colors your opinion of them as prospects when the time comes. I'm just very underwhelmed by his production. There is not a huge difference between an Easley or Kumerow level nobody and a Gabe Davis level big play, very good WR3. The difference really shows up in actual games and in availability. A lot has to go right at that size. But if it does.......it's a great advantage.

His initial description of the pick was that they had a similarly graded defensive player but chose him instead because he had a better chance to make the roster as a special teamer. He's since given him more props. His tape is better than you'd think, IMO...........but my actual expectations for him are like this guy below. 4th rounder Marcus Easley. Very little college production but big, strong and fast. We waited on him to play up to the sum of his perceived talents for many years. He was a beast on ST's but never put it together as an offensive player and injuries didn't help.

Yeah to me Broeker has a good chance to be an NFL starter at some point. Maybe not for a long duration.......but I have to question if the people who say he won't ever start have seen the state of OL play in the NFL. Really good value for a draft that, in general, was seen as shallow. Glad they didn't pass on a second guard just because they went with Torrence early. CB and IOL were the deepest positions, IMO and if you do it right you get the value the draft offers. Just wish they got one of the big traits CB's earlier. There have been some good CB drafts recently but there is no guarantee that continues so make hay when the sun shines or risking reaching for need later. Drafts rarely pan out like they look right after they happened, but the Williams pick in round 3 looks like the one spot where they should have gotten more value on paper. But maybe he pans out great. He has much better physical tools than Bernard.

Yeah there was another ***** on that line too. That opening day OL was the least experienced non-strike offensive line to start an NFL game since the merger.

Give it another few years. I had a kid in little league 3 years ago and every kid on the team was an aden, aben or alen. All of them. It's just beginning.

Memorable, but ultimately a really dumb draft. Maybin and a bunch of low hanging fruit at non-premium positions that you can't pay market rate to if you haven't developed your own talent at premium positions. Good example of going broke making a profit. If your second round pick pans out big.......like Byrd becoming an All Pro or Levitre becoming a standout OG.......and you don't have adequate replacements but still don't feel like you NEED to keep those guys........you drafted the wrong guy/position.

I assume he was wearing no-show socks. I'd hope so, at least.