Steve O

Actually no. We traded up for Sammy, not back in to the bottom of the first. My point was the value usually isn't there to trade back in to the bottom of the first as it usually costs this year's second, next year's first, plus other assets (in Losman's case this year's fifth.) Agree that we gave up way too much for Sammy, but he was the Bills only first round pick that year.

Correct, Beane hasn't made those decisions because the value isn't there to move back in to the bottom of the first, which usually means giving up next year's first along with some of this year's assets. Wouldn't be surprised to see him move up or down from 22 but don't see him moving back in to the bottom of the first once that pick is made.

Who are the last two players the Bills traded away future picks for to get back in to the bottom of the first? J P Losman (22) and John McCargo (26.) They gave up that year's 2nd and fifth along with the following year's first for Losman. Not sure what they gave up for McCargo but certainly more than he was worth.

Funny...My nephew's wife is from China. Took a few years but her parents are now legal residents of the US and live with them. My nephew is the only one in the house that drives.

"Player Summary - Alex Highsmith projects as a developmental starter at the pro level. He's got the needed explosiveness, short area agility and motor — pairing it with promising flashes of hand usage to play off of contact and win off the edge as a pass rusher. There's plenty of quickness to his game — can Highsmith learn to consistently stack up the point of attack? He's probably best suited to play 3-4 OLB in the NFL to allow him wide angles to extend and stack up blockers against the run. " https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/alex-highsmith/q6qDVlYZMM With no red flags seems to be the kind of late round project McBeane covets

Ask this tomorrow

You have a point...I have no problem with that. Providing I'm first of course.

was thinking the same thing

Beebe went out of bounds on the second touchdown, right after the onside kick recovery. No replay then. To the OP's point, not only did the Oilers dominate the first half, one week earlier they had dominated the Bills 27-3. So through 6 quarters of football the Oilers held a 55-6 scoring advantage.

If we HAD TAKEN Rosen, it would have made me as sick as the OP's butchering of the English language in the title

I don't know what he said privately, but publicly he was classy when leaving... https://buffalonews.com/2017/11/01/marcell-dareus-letter-to-buffalo-i-want-to-thank-the-amazing-buffalo-fans/

RIP Here's a link to his tumblr page for anyone interested https://buffalobillsphotos.tumblr.com/

Now she'll have to get a driver!

So you're saying Whaley was right

For the next decade or so we'll need to find a way to get past Jackson and/or Mahomes to make it to the Super Bowl. If he runs a 4.3 he can be used as the spy.

Didn't read the entire thread, apologize if this has already been posted https://www.gq.com/story/everson-griffen-mental-health

You actually may have a point. Article says the husband has been to at least 150 games. He would know this isn't exactly atypical behavior, that incidents like this happen at almost every game. Might not exonerate liability completely, but might lower the judgement if there is one.

I once heard a fairly famous personality asked what his favorite golf course was. His response was that you had to take Augusta National out of the conversation because nothing else compares to it. In that same mentality I think you need to take Freddie out of this conversation as he is loved by so many here. With that in mind, I agree with those that picked Aaron Schobel.

Would love to get what we gave up to trade up to 22 for Losman. 2 and 5 this year and that 1st round pick next year. If Herbert or Love are still there maybe someone will take the deal and I can finally let that trade go.

How else could it be interpreted?

There were several Philip Rivers in 83. Next QB after Elway was Todd Blackledge at 7, some guy named Jim Kelly went at 14, then Tony Eason at 15. Marino went at 27 shortly after O'Brien. What Elway had for leverage along with baseball was the USFL option.

You had plastic bags!?? Had to carry my books in my arms.

No one could have imagined this 50 years ago....oh wait, maybe Rod Serling.

Guess I misinterpreted what you were trying to say. Thought you were adding him to the list of Clemson busts when your point was not all Clemson receivers taken in round 1 were busts. My apologies.

No way Butler was a whiff. Averaged over 800 yards a year under ground Chuck (interpolating the strike shortened 82 season to 16 games.) ROY in 79, first team all pro in 80. Knee injury in 83 really slowed him down (missed half of 83 and all of 84.) Still, almost 800 yards on a 2-14 85 team, held on to the TD pass that resulted in career ending injury in 86. Buffalo Rumblings had him on the Bills' 50 man all time team (in 2009, probably wouldn't make it now.)