RyanC883

this is ridiculous. Hamlin had a miraculous recovery. It should have galvanized the team. We have a lot of poor/average talent on this team outside of JA, Diggs, Miller, Milano and Knox. We missed on a TON of picks, killing our OL and DL. Bean had been a poor drafter since Allen

thats why Bean may need to go. Can we trust him to draft offense? Can we have someone else run the draft?

Mock draft time??!! Here is a mock I did today. Feel free to mock or compliment it (all rounds, no trades PFF simulator) RD1: 27: S-Antonio Johnson, Texas A&M. I figure we lose Poyer, and Johnson can fit right in. I know, we need a WR and a bunch of offensive toys, but he is BPA here. R2: 59: WR-Jalin Hyatt, Tenn. Risk is only one year of high production, but upside is there to be a true #2 or eventual #1 WR. R3: 91 RB-Zach Evans, RB, Ole Miss. Compliment for Cook. Good back with speed/strength/catching. Rd 4: 130: C/G Jarrett Patterson, ND. Eventual replacement for Morse while a starter at G. Seems like a day 1 player. Allowed no sacks through Jr. year. R4:139: LB-Owen Pappoe, Auburn. Replacement for Edmunds. Not as athletic, but can hold up in the middle. R5: 164: G/OT Jaxon Kirkland, Washington. Not sure he lasts this long, but another guy who could potentially start day 1. Some positional flexibility. R6: 205: DT-Cameron Young, Miss State. The need to perhaps replace Oliver or add another weapon/stout player in the middle of the DL. Strength is more this guys game. R7: 247: WR-Jayden Reed, MSU: Not sure he lasts this long. Speedy slot WR. Not sure we need another slot, but great value here and will be a contributor. More weapons for JA

This would make them the likely AFC East champs/SB contender. George Wilson is an amazing WR, Breece Hall is a freak RB, and that D is stout. Keep Rodgers away then they will pop out the salary cap excuse and continunity to keep the FO and coaches around again.

Colts??

I like Thomas on a 1 year prove it deal. This does not prevent drafting a WR. It does allow us to trade back if no good WR is there, take one of the top G/C, OT, and RB, LB, and S. all of which are needs after cap causalities.

of thst guy is the BPA I can handle it. I can’t handle reaching for a position of need which has resulted in numerous failures for Bean.

might not be 1st round WR or OL talent. If not, I see us trading back to grab several needs: C/G, WR, S, LB.

why do you even watch. You enjoy playoff participation trophies? The reality is we had and have a chance, but this GM who blows picks unlike Cincy and KC’s; and coach who says he “learns” and keeps playing the same crap D will not lead us anywhere. the implication is that you are okay with the status quo. If not, offer some ideas beyond whatever your “accept reality” comment was

they have passed on impact players while reaching for positions, notably DL.

Here is a mock I did today. Feel free to mock or compliment it (all rounds, no trades PFF simulator) RD1: 27: S-Antonio Johnson, Texas A&M. I figure we lose Poyer, and Johnson can fit right in. I know, we need a WR and a bunch of offensive toys, but he is BPA here. R2: 59: WR-Jalin Hyatt, Tenn. Risk is only one year of high production, but upside is there to be a true #2 or eventual #1 WR. R3: 91 RB-Zach Evans, RB, Ole Miss. Compliment for Cook. Good back with speed/strength/catching. Rd 4: 130: C/G Jarrett Patterson. Eventual replacement for Morse while a starter at G. Seems like a day 1 player. Allowed no sacks through Jr. year. R4:139: LB-Owen Pappoe, Auburn. Replacement for Edmunds. Not as athletic, but can hold up in the middle. R5: 164: G/OT Jaxon Kirkland, Washington. Not sure he lasts this long, but another guy who could potentially start day 1. Some positional flexibility. R6: 205: DT-Cameron Young, Miss State. The need to perhaps replace Oliver or add another weapon/stout player in the middle of the DL. Strength is more this guys game. R7: 247: WR-Jayden Reed, MSU: Not sure he lasts this long. Speedy slot WR. Not sure we need another slot, but great value here and will be a contributor. More weapons for JA.

So you're saying it's a Bean, not a Frazier issue? Frazier needs to recognize he does not have the guys on the line and adapt. Bean needs to get a better job finding guys.

Anyone know stuff about Steve Avila from TCU. Apparently he can play G/C/and RT. That could be a nice 2-3rd target.

It is insulting. Taking other peoples tragedies and blaming them for your weak performance. None of those tragedies made the DL suck, made the CBs play off the WR, etc. Sorry, not buying it. Excuses every year for McD.

Fire Bean, and stop drafting for positional need. Taking Roseau and Basham led to passing up on 2 pro-bowl caliber G/Gs. (leading to need on OL). if Frazier is not fired, I'm not watching next year. The same result will happen when you play a talented and well coached offense, like what happens in the post-season.

this is a ridiculous take. They are not the emotional crutch of the community. Were people coming to them for therapy? To the extend they felt the community looked to them, they would have stepped up and played better, used it as motivation to give the City and Bills fans everywhere something better. Staffold is just an excuse machine. And really, this one is pathetic and insulting.

I would not give them a pass for anything. The City of Buffalo had a mass shooting (tragic) and 2 blizzards (one moved a game--big deal, the other was more tragic). These did not really impact the Bills. Sorry, they don't get to be "emotional" about those and say it dragged on them all season. Then Hamlin, he is recovering...should be positive energy. Seems like excuses based off the tragedy experienced by others.

Agreed. McD is WEAK and plays scared. Another Dick Jauron. But he built a "culture" some say. Um, what? What culture. A culture of people who crumble under so-called adversity. What adversity? Hamlin miraculously recovering is adversity?!?! Give me a break, it should be inspiring and provide positive energy. When fight or flight happened, these guys chose flight all season. That's the tone the D played with all year. Leadership comes from the top, and the HC fails.

Wow, great work. I'll put in my thoughts above. Overall, Bean has screwed us by missing on so many rookie picks in the past (Basham, Ford, Rosseau even (he's a 2nd DE, not a top game-changer). Next year could be a very difficult year. I can see us trading out of round 1 for more picks given this current issue. But I don't trust Bean to find impact players.

we could not expose him because of DORSEY. And the awful D putting us in a terrible spot on offense.

totally agree, but won't happen with McD and Bean, unfortunately. trade some players, then no dead cap, right?

Well, since Jauron went 13-3 without Allen in Chicago, he could clearly lead an Allen team to the playoffs. Mularkey, yeah, he was a great OC with PIT and led the Bills to within 1 game of the playoffs without Allen. Gailey, had Fitz at QB. Nope, I was much around during the drought, and the constant was ZERO high-end ability at QB. Okay, I get it, you like mediocracy. You suffer from droughtitosis, the thought that changing a HC will revert the Bills to the drought era. It won't. What will happen if we keep on this trajectory is never make, much less win, a SB. Your other points are equally ridiculous, btw. Win the AFC East, what other team in the AFC East has a talented roster, yet a good QB? None. Winning regular seasons: we played in the AFC East, again, and have yet to get a 1 seed even. We didn't step on our own di**s. We got our butts handed to us by the Dolphins (who would have beaten us if their starting RB was there, IMO), and then again by the Bengals. We also embarrassingly lost last year, and the year before, and the year before. Sence a trend.

Assume that you own the Bills, and want to assemble a new staff (if you like the current one, that's fine, no need to respond to this thread). Who would you have at GM, HC, OC, and DC. You can keep some of the current guys, but have to replace at least one. I'll start: GM: Bean. "What, but you hate his picks." I do, but I think his picks are too influenced by McD. That said, I would interrogate the heck out of him, particularly what changes he will make to draft process, so we stop drafting for need over BPA. If I made a change, I'm taking DeCosta from the Ravens. HC: Shane Steichen--OC Eagles (worked with both Hibberts and Hurts. Eagles' offense is fantastic with an all-around attack of defenses) OC: whoever Steichen wants. Even keeping Dorsey is an option here in that Steichen could likely fix him/take over playcalling. DC: Jerod Mayo--Pats LB Coach or Brian Flores--PIT Assist DC. Would only be here a minute, and his NFL litigation is absurd, but whatever, he can coach D. Interested in the ideas of others!

oh, this is a good analogy. And that got Cam's career killed. Allen's agent should be on the phone with Pegs saying I'm either traded, sitting out, or McD and Bean are GONE. Might be the only thing that saves this team. Pegs is a pushover owner it seems (no changes after 13 seconds)

he lucked into Mahomes and a good GM in KC.