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"politicians lie" WHAT? Are you serious?

interesting, either one might be good late round pick-ups

that is very true . . . I'm thinking a WR or Corner, or wildcard - the Tight End from Stanford? Cody Fleener

You are probable right, in the end I don't think he'll be traded anywhwere.

Would love to have those two receivers at the end of the draft: Randel & Streeter .... that would be real size and speed The only other pick I wish was included is the OT from Iowa State rather than the guy from Auburn: Kelechi Oscemele And, I think Cordarro Law is a sleeper . . . Kind of an Aaron Maybin type, but with genuine football talent

I would take Wallace for as high as a 2nd pick, but on a short, affordable contract only. But I have no idea what "short and affordable" would look like? Think about it, what caliber of player would you draft at 2? I'll take a real All-Pro over a potential All-Pro any day; that is, at a fair (to player and team) and reasonably price?

ESPN, to hear Berman

Rief

three top flight starters, pretty good . . . blowing the 11th pick, terrible--not only not worthy of 11th over-all, he never even started a game, the worst pick in the history of the franchise didn't he get a career ending injury?

But you forgot the most likely pick: Martin!

I saw Orlando Pace play a state play-off basketball game when we was in high school = two slam dunks, one flat footed, straight up. Incredible quickness and agility for a man his size

I really like this idea: WR,LT,OLB: (RD1:Floyd) (RD2:Kelechi Osemele) .... I think Osemele is the real deal--based on what I've read. Admittedly, I have not seen him play--not that that ever matters for us when making our opinions/choices known here.

That is what I was thinking, and I don't think anyone in front of them is going to be interested in Tannehill.

Coby Fleener (6-6, 247 pounds), Stanford. Fleener has the elite speed, hands and route-running ability to make an immediate impact as a receiver. For more, check out SN's Fleener scouting report. More Here And I really like Tank Carter and Rusell Wilson in the middle rounds

Wow? And yeah! Payton Manning has been all about helping develop other guys, like he did with . . . . . . ah? . . . . . . ah? . . . . .

said Billy Jo Hobert!

I think Gruden's assessment of Fitz is right on Buffalo News Article But it raises a bigger question/issue: The BIlls have brought in two QBs, and a 3rd is on the way. I, however, don't see them drafting one at all. There are probably a few of these second tier (that is, non top 10 guys) they would love to get, but I don't see any of them being worthy of our 2nd pick, and not sure they are more important than other needs in the 3rd round. So, in the end, if none of these guys fall to the 4th, then I don't see them drafting one at all. What do you all think? Yes or No, and if "yes," who, and in what round? I say none in the early rounds, and then maybe a flier on a late round guy.

I think you're right Estro, but I really like your draft scenario . . . My 2012 Bills Mock Draft: Chargers trade up to #10, giving us #18 and #51 1(#18)- Cordy Glenn (OT, Georgia) - (changed from Melvin Ingram) 2(#41)- Lavonte David (OLB, Nebraska) - (changed from Rueben Randle) 2(#51)- Josh Robinson (CB, UCF) - (changed from James Brown) 3(#72)- Marvin McNutt (WR, Iowa) - (changed from Audie Cole)

What happened? I had seen him as a possible 2nd round choice for the Bills.

good analysis , I pretty much agree with everything!

Point taken. When I put up the post I thought of the many Catholic schools, I assume the original post was bent towards the Evangelical wing of Christianity. See the quote: "a bunch of bible-thumping church-boys." I would also add, of the other schools mentioned, Baylor is probably the the closest to conservative evangelicalism - it is still affiliated with the Southern Baptist Convention of Texas. Other SBC schools with D1 or 1A football include: Wake Forrest, Davidson, Furman, Sanford. Keeping it in the Evangelical Church realm, which I think was the perspective of #34, interestingly, Baylor and Duke still have widely respected Theological Seminary's connected to their school (Duke is Methodist school). Anyhow, didn't mean to offend. My apologies if needed.

I appreciate the effort #34, but these schools have long abandoned their Christian heritage . . . remember: SMU has their own special on ESPN about their level of corruption and decadence--and that came from the leadership of the school. You could also throw Harvard and Yale in there (and whole bunch of others), as each was founded with a Christian purpose and mission. Maybe the only truly major Christian college/university today that turns out NFL level players on occasion, is Liberty down in Virginia (of Jerry Falwell fame).

character counts! . . . unless they are incredibly talented?

it will probably be the Pats in December