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Come on, you know that is a false way to say that...you are including this year as the "3 years". He was NOT injured for 3 years. He played 10 games in 2 seasons, and then this year he has been 100%. There is no reason to skew information to make it seem worse than it is. CMC had no injury history in HS, College, or the NFL outside those 2 years. That does not make him injury prone, none of those injuries were career threatening. Fred Taylor, Frank Gore, Matthew Stafford, etc etc...all labeled injury prone because of injuries in consecutive seasons just to go on and put it behind them and never be an issue again.

No offense, but these are not comparable situations. Gurley had a degenerative knee issue that was always going to shorten his career. CMC stayed major injury free his entire football life from HS to College to the NFL with the exception of some non career threatening injuries the plaguing previous 2 years. His career does not seem close to coming to a close. This board tried to basically proclaim Saquan and CMC careers were all but done as high level players this offseason...yet one is leading the NFL in scrimmage yards and the reason his team is 5-1 and the other was playing so well that the Niners just traded most their 2023 draft to get him. No offense again, but there is no bigger false saying in the NFL than "RB's are a dime a dozen"...its just not true.

Somebody actually gave a vomit emoticon over this post???? Lmao, what a terrible reaction to your post Yeah, this guy is going to keep growing this year into a real weapon and consistent role on this team. I said it all off-season and camp…McKenzie is NOT a starter in this league. So many people got so butt hurt about that and argued with me he was gonna have some big season lol. I was like nope, his season won’t look much different than years past. The staff knew this too which is why they paid McKenzie backup money then added Crowder and drafted Shakir. I was all aboard the Shakir train on draft night. Loved him coming out and I was confident he would go in the 2nd or 3rd round. I didn’t even realize he was still on the board when we picked him. I can’t remember even being that excited over a 5th round selection TBH. The guy reminds me so much of Copper Kupp as a player. And it’s no coincidence because he patterns his game off of him. Shakir is going to be a stud for us, and his time to take over the majority of the slot snaps is coming this year and we could see that begin after the bye week. He just plays so much tougher and smarter than McKenzie. On a personal level, love McKenzie and root for him. But on a non bias level, he just isn’t good enough to be an every down player. Yes he runs fast, and that’s about where it stops when you name things he excels at. He doesn’t run great routes, he doesn’t have great hands, he doesn’t do well catching in traffic, he isn’t physical, and his field IQ is a liability. He is a good situational and gadget role player though.

We did not lose that NE game because we couldn’t run the ball. We lost that game because Daboll thought it was best throw the whole game instead of running the ball. And we also lost because our undersized DL couldn’t stop the run. I don’t get why people don’t seem to understand about how you can’t run the ball if you don’t actually run the ball. When we focus on involving the run game, we run successfully. We just don’t run the ball because we Josh Allen is just carving up the NFL. He’s on pace for the greatest season ever for a QB and utterly shattering the current NFL record by 800 yards right now. That being said: Moss sucks. So if they added another RB as insurance against a Devin injury, then fine. But we don’t need to give up a solid to premium pick for a RB unless that person was a proven stud and significant upgrade to Devin.

I am fine signing OBJ, but I would actually be MORE excited about trading for Elijah than signing OBJ. It will NEVER happen. Jets are NOT sending any help to the Bills, and Beane is NOT going to give up a good draft pick to get another WR. But, Elijah would be a better addition because he is full go and ready. OBJ is a proven stud, but we have no idea how good he will be this year after yet another major injury. Again, I am all for signing OBJ, I mean there isn't really any risk and even if he is 75% or what he was, he is still a lot better than McKenzie. Im just comparing the two to show how much confidence I have in Elijah Moore excelling with a good QB. I think this kid could be very good in a better situation.

Wrong. He was right up to the draft neck and neck with Baker to go number 1 overall. You realize there 5 QBs teams saw as top pro prospects, and at that time was considered the best QB draft class in 30 years. And Josh went 3rd, and almost went number 1.

If I am GB, he is my number 1 trade target. I would be on the phone easily offering a 3rd for him, would even consider a conditional 2nd. The guy can play, and he would instantly be the best WR on the Packers the moment he steps on the field. I really think he would be a stud with Rodgers in GB.

I feel like this post wouldn't make any less sense if you wrote it to me in Italian. And I don't speak Italian.

Everyone talking about what Niners spent previously on RB’s. Who cares. It’s a pointless and short sighted way to look at this. That’s a sunk cost. It’s gone. It’s irrelevant. Only fans obsess over that. GM’s job is to win a SB and make a move today that increases those chances. What they did before doesn’t matter in how this move impacts those odds. And make no mistake about it…The Niners made a move today that elevates them from contender to possible favorite to reach the SB in the NFC. They paid a lot, and they are probably the only team in the NFL trade makes sense for. He is an absolute perfect fit for their style of play and offense. It’s an offense built on running the ball and playing tough defense. This would have been a HORRIFIC trade for say the Bills. There was zero percent chance Bills and Beane would have ever considered this much for a RB on a pass dominant team with the best QB in the league. But for the 49ers, who are a SB contender before the trade, this is the kind of move that can put them over the top in the NFC. Their issue remains health on the defensive side of the ball. But once they get some guys back, this will be my favorite to make the SB in the NFC. I would NOT have paid this…but for the Niners, I think the trade makes sense.

2nd, 3rd, and 4th round picks in 2023, and a 5th rounder in 2024. HARD PASS. Not at all worth it for a pass first team with the best QB in the NFL. Love CMC as a player, but there was zero percent chance Beane was paying that. And thank god he didn’t. On a side note, if I am the Niners, this makes a lot more sense. He elevates their style of play and I think makes them the favorites in the NFC when their defense gets healthy again soon. And they could be a dangerous foe in a SB matchup. My wife is ecstatic as a Niners fan, especially since it increases the odds of a Niners vs Bills Super Bowl.

Going back to draft night, there were things I kept pointing out to those freaking about Josh from that moment on and yelling "wrong Josh"..."why wasn't he good in college"...etc etc. Coaching...he never received high level coaching at any level of his football experience before the NFL. Allen was a multi-sport athlete in HS. He wasn't hyper focused on football yet. And he played In a small town where coaching wasn't a high level. That led to a JUCO stint...again, still not exposed to high level coaching. That led to Wyoming...again, still not getting top notch coaching and development. Raw - Without high level development, he relied purely on athletic gifts and not mechanics or fundamentals. Talent around him was weak everywhere he played. He didn't have future college stars with him in HS, he didn't have talent around in at the JUCO, and his best players around him at Wyoming left the year before to the NFL and his last season there he really had no one any good around him. Between his last day at Wyoming and the combine, Josh worked on mechanics with Palmer and suddenly there was already a dramatic improvement. So much so, Allen came in and crushed the combine and started turning heads and changing minds. You could see right then what his potential was and how he was responding to real coaching on his mechanics. In fact, this is what started to change my mind on Allen, his incredible improvement at the combine. Prior to that, I had not even considered him an option to be drafted by us. On draft night, Allen was my guy. I had Baker as the top prospect still, and once word got out he was the one going #1 overall, Allen was then my hope. And if not Allen, then I was hoping for Lamar. I hated Rosen and prayed we wouldn't draft him and Darnold I was fine taking, but I watched so many bad decisions when he was here at USC that I had real doubts about him.

Niners because my wife is a Niners fan...so it would be an epic battle here hahaha

If you projected either Mannings or Brees top 2 spots all time in total yards over 17 games, they still fall 200 yards short. So there has never been a season in NFL history that would have equated to 6000 total yards in 17 games. There isn't even one season by a player that comes within 100 yards of reaching 6000 yards in 17 games. So I do not think being 17 games makes it "easier". I would say it takes it from pretty much impossible to it could happen one day when someone puts up the single greatest season in NFL history. In fact to do it, that person would almost certainly have to break the current NFL record within 16 games to be able to even reach 6000 in 17 games. Add in the fact that the odds are, if a QB is having that kind of season, there is a very good chance he may not have to play much in week 17, making the achievement even potentially harder.

Yes good add in...and one of those rare trades where both teams love the outcome of it.

As others pointed out, we were missing some key players too in our secondary who are amongst the best at their positions. So in terms of missing players, I think it is pretty much a wash. That being said, these are clearly the 2 best teams in football IMHO. I think both would beat the Eagles or any other NFC team in a Super Bowl. I will also add, this is my favorite Bills rivalry of all time already. Here are my reasons: Allen vs Mahomes - Why not state the obvious here. These are the two best QB's in the league. I am certain KC fans feel Mahomes is the best and Bills fans feel Allen is the best. And rightfully so, hard to say either side is wrong in that opinion. I think Allen is simply because everything on the field Mahomes does, Allen can also do...but there are a couple physical things Allen can do that even Mahomes cant. They are 1A and 1B though, the margin of difference in negligible and I can't fault anyone wrong for making a case for either guy. No ill will towards the Chiefs - When the two stud QB's are so respectful and likeable combined with being friends off the field, it already sets a friendly competitive tone instead of a bitter rival such as is there with a divisional rivalry. Plus, our coaches are connected and friends too. And the games are relatively clean and just great football instead of dirty with lots of fights and shenanigans. NOTE: This is certainly helped by that POS Hill not being there. Honestly can't stand that woman beater. Now he is on a divisional rival so I can hate him even more. I will admit, something about Kelce kind of rubs me the wrong way, but its not on the same level as Hill. Respect to you and the Chiefs, this is going to be a great rivalry for years to come. But it's ALSO time for the Chiefs to play a game in Buffalo. This going to KC 3 years straight in the regular season is dumb (we go there next year too). This game this year should have been in Buffalo, Bills fans and Bills mafia deserve one of these epic games in Buffalo too. But hopefully our win this past week is the catalyst and gets us the playoff game in Buffalo.

I think its a combo of a couple things. Allens arm strength. He just naturally has a much lower trajectory because he can deliver a strike 25 yards down field the same way other QB's throw 7 yard crossing passes. He is tall - I know this sounds counterintuitive to the point, but I can tell you as someone who is also tall (I am 6'4") that when you can see over the tops of things, it definitely gives you more confidence that you can get it there unimpeded. You don't feel this need to get over something when you are looking right at it. Allen isn't afraid to get hit - He is not afraid to stand tall in a collapsing pocket and take a hit while trying to deliver a pass. And all these defensive lineman are taught to get their hands up when closing in on the QB like that. I've noticed several of these passes get knocked down when the pocket is closing in on him. And when you factor the 2 points above into the equation in these moments, its just allowing some guys to get there hands on some passes.

Chase Claypool has the ability to be a stud in the right situation. I don't know if he is a fit character wise for our locker room, nor do I expect we would even pursue him. I don't see us needing to trade a draft asset for a WR. But Claypool in GB could be dangerous. Rodgers will get him the ball, and with his speed and size, he could be very DK Metcalf like in that offense. If he goes to the Giants, meh, Jones just isn't a great passer and I am sure Claypool would have a few big games just based on his size and speed, but I think he would be very inconsistent in that weak passing offense.

There are a multitude of reasons for that though...and McCaffrey and Ekeler are making big contributions as a receiver and arguably the most effective parts of both offenses right now. But...this discussion is getting a bit sidetracked. I am not in any way advocating for a run first team, emphasize the run game, etc. I am one of Devin's biggest defenders. I am just saying, adding an elite RB who is also an elite receiver to this offense is certainly an upgrade, even though I really like Devin and just think he needs to be given more carries. But I was correcting the poster who claimed in the last 25 years no team wins in the playoffs with a run game led offense, and it wasn't true. It's totally irrelevant to the Bills, we are a dominant passing team and will remain that way no matter who is running the ball, as it should be when you have the best QB in the league.

Except that’s just not true. In the last 25 years…a team with a great D and run game as the strength of their teams won the SB 11 times. To name some: Manning won his last ring on a run game and defense as the worst passer in the NFL that year and worst QB performance in a Super Bowl win in NFL history. Russel Wilson won a SB as a game manager before he became a great QB behind a dominant run game and dominant defense. And would have won back to back had they run instead of pass at end of the game. Big Ben won a SB on the back of a dominant run game and defense before he became a great passer later in his career. New England won their first 3 Super Bowls as a great defense and running team with squat at WR before Brady became a high production QB. Ravens won the SB with Trent Dilfer and a dominant run game and dominant defense. Giants won multiple SBs this way. None of this matters. I’m not saying let’s become a run team or even to trade for CMC. Heck I’m one of Devin’s biggest defenders and supporters here. I’m just correcting this inaccurate claim you just made that it’s never happened in the last 25 years.

Im not talking about paying an elite RB. I said there is no denying it would boost our offense even higher. CMC would also only cost us $600k or so this year. And can be cut with no cap hit next year if Beane didn’t want to pay him. Again, I don’t think it’s gonna happen, but money isn’t really an issue here if the intention is to elevate chances for just this year.

I would be curious to know that too actually. But I do think all time greats find ways to dig deeper though. On paper this team should be better than it is, so the point is, they can turn it on at any point, don't take them lightly is the moral of the story. Yeah, the Washington game is an easy get right game for them. I should have clarified that. Not to mention, lots of talk of them making a trade for a WR too here soon.

I'm a better option than McKenzie and I am 46 and slow AF. I think we will see Shakir gradually take more and more snaps from McKenzie the way Devin did with Moss. I bet it's at least a 50-50 split this next game, and it wouldn't surprise me to see Shakir take even more than 50% of the snaps.

I expect to sack Rodgers 6 times and win this game by at least 3 scores. At the same time, it's still Aaron Rodgers who is pissed off coming off an embarrassing loss against the Jets. On paper, that D should be better than its been playing. Moral of the story: THE BILLS BETTER NOT TAKE THIS GAME LIGHTLY.

In terms of capital investment, those numbers will always be highest for QB, Tackle, and DE. No doubt about it. But you can't sit here and diminish the value of a RB while Saquan Barkley is turning Daniel Jones into a winning QB and playoff QB despite him be average at best. Saquan is carrying that offense and is a big reason why they are 5-1. Had they traded Saquan in the offseason they would probably be 1-5 right now instead. An elite RB can absolutely move the needle for a team. I mean if you put CMC on the Bills, all the betting odds on us get even better and we are already the favorite. Put him on KC, and they will close the gap or even become the betting favorite over us. Put him on SF and they suddenly look like the team to beat in the NFC. Should a team build around a RB, of course not, that is a much harder way to win in the modern NFL. It's possible, but you are going to need a great OL and a great Defense and a solid QB just to have a chance. But anyone devaluing what CMC would bring to this offense is kidding themselves I am a fan of Devin, and I have defended him many times against the over exaggerated crap he gets around here. But even I know CMC potentially makes our offense historically good and damn near unstoppable. And for the record...the guy you responded to wasn't comparing a DE to a RB. He was comparing the situations. Going from a good to great player significantly moved the needle on defense in upgrading from Hughes to Von. He was saying upgrading from Devin to CMC could have the same significant impact for the offense. And for the record: I do not think we trade for McCaffrey. I think Beane called, found the price to be too rich, and that was that. They will most likely find another suitor willing to give more than Beane is. And I am totally fine with Devin, but also fine and would be excited if we surprised and did land CMC.

While I don't disagree with you really on this premise...Antonio Brown says hi