Alphadawg7

Don’t disagree that Beane values his picks more, and thankfully so. But Hunt is still cheap this year. It’s not like he has some huge price tag. We can easily take him on and there is no cap penalty next year because he’s a free agent. So money really has zero relevance into whether or not they would trade for Hunt. The only “cost” that will be of concern to Beane is simply compensation to facilitate the trade.

You say that, but just last year the Rams traded 2nd and a 3rd round pick for a half season rental of Von Miller. Rams also were offering 2nd, 3rd, and 5th this year for CMC but got outbid by Niners even though it would have been very difficult for Rams to keep CMC next year with his cap hit. Bills reportedly offered a 2nd for CMC with no assurances we would keep him after this season had that trade gone through given the cap impacts of Josh's deal kicking in next year, Von, and all our guys whose contracts are coming up. So no disrespect, but saying no one will pay that isn't accurate. And Hunt can easily still resign with their respective team, especially if he does a team friendly deal to stay with a winning organization as their lead back.

Hunt would be a half season rental here, with the potential to retain him as a Free Agent if he wants to take a discount to stay on a top tier team as the feature RB. But more than likely, it's a rental for an all in SB push to both help our odds and also keep him off a competitors roster we might see in the playoffs.

I am totally comfortable with Devin and have enough confidence in him to where I don't feel like we "need" to make a move to win a SB. He is better than he gets credit for and has done well when given enough touches. And he is absolutely beloved by Josh and the team. So for me, the only RB that is being reported as "available" via trade that I would support a trade for (in terms of playing ahead of Devin) is Kareem Hunt. He could make a bigger impact here than even CMC would have IMHO because he can also be a force between the tackles for tough yards. Hunt is a legit top 5 RB candidate as as starter, a true 3 down back. NOTE: I wouldn't mind the Bills taking a flier and sending a low round pick to LA for Akers. He at least has starter/backup potential next year after Devin inevitably leaves, assuming Akers can bounce back with a change of scenery and being further removed from his previous injury last year. So I wouldn't mind that gamble given I don't have a lot of confidence in Moss.

Or...there are more people who don't really know the facts of the night and grossly over exaggerate it to be a LOT more than it was. Theres that too.

Anyone doing a thumbs down for an elite RB at the cost of Zack Moss and a 5th is high on bad drugs because that would an absolute steal. Which is exactly why Cleveland would never do this. First, they do not need Moss, they have a very good 3rd RB already who has produced big time when Chubb and Hunt missed time. He is way better than Moss is to backup and share carries with Chubb. Hunt talent for talent wise is up there with CMC, but he won't fetch as much because Hunt is a FA next year. But Cleveland will surely get better offers than a 5th round pick and a player they don't want or need. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Hunt go for a 2nd rounder or multiple picks as he is a top 5 talent at RB as a starter, still young, and a true 3 down RB. He can really elevate a contender this year. As far as the Bills go...I am not going to lose any sleep if we stick with Devin, I think he is underutilized and under appreciated for how good he is when given chances. So by no means do I think we need to make a move for Hunt. But there is no question adding Hunt to our roster instantly makes us a better team. Having Hunt as the lead back and Devin to back him up would make this offense nearly unstoppable. Hunt is a top tier runner and receiver out of the backfield who can also run tough between the tackles. His impact here might even be bigger than CMC would have made because of he can pick up the tough yards too. If we truly offered our 2nd for CMC, then I would think it's plausible we would have interest in Hunt. If memory serves me, there was interest in Hunt by our FO a couple years back too. Again, won't lose any sleep over having Devin as our lead back, he is better than he gets credit for. But at the same time, Hunt would be an exciting addition and also I would much rather see Hunt come here than a competitor we might face in the playoffs.

Ha, I picked Ryan up this past week in fantasy while Allen was on a bye...got the W...and I have already cut him too.

I just hate that on a must convert 3rd and 2 we take away all our weapons on the team and Allens legs and ability to improvise. And I will slightly disagree about Diggs being our best playmaker...our best playmaker on the team is really Allen. Fade takes him completely out of the equation for a 50/50 ball where our not very tall WR was blanketed. Overall...he was a great OC for us, and grateful for his time here. But I just didn't like some of his decisions like this on key plays.

Yes sorry, you are right it was the bucs game. I for some reason was thinking it was the Titans game. But you are correct, the fade I am talking about was the Bucs game on 3rd and 2 and we had to take the FG and lost in OT.

I mean we just offered a 2nd for an Elite player. Denver is going to want something of good value back for both Juedy and Chubb given how much they have invested in them, and neither of them is Elite. There is no chance IMHO Beane would offer anything close to what Denver will want for one of these guys, nor should he. Neither of them would even start on our team. KJ Hamler is a guy I think might be had much cheaper, and if we could add his speed to our WR depth, then maybe I can see us doing that if the price was right. But ultimately, I doubt we make any trades from this point on. CMC interested them because he was a rare elite player in his prime available. But even then, it was only for a specific price, and Beane was not going to budge or get close to what he actually fetched in a trade.

And that creativity is why I still think he was amongst the better OC's. But, the issue I had was when he would take away the strength of the team in key moments. Just for an example...the Bucs game on 3rd and 2. The fade to Diggs was so stupid. Josh takes 1 step and floats a 50/50 ball instantly. You just removed Davis, Knox, Cole, Devin, and most importantly Josh Allen and all he brings to the table with his legs too out of the play for a coin flip play from the 2 yard line. Unbelievably stupid. Talk about taking all the pressure off the defense in a spot right there. Why not spread the O out and put Josh in Shotgun and make the defense have to worry about Diggs, Davis, Knox, Beasley, Devin, and Josh's legs? It was a critical moment and just a god awful play call regardless if it works or not. Not with the team around Allen and the added dimension of Allen being able to run it in too. Why anyone would want to take away Josh's ability to improvise and make plays with his legs down near the goal line is beyond me. For example, look at the 2 point conversion try we converted to go up by 3 against KC late in the playoff game. Allens ability to keep that play alive is why we converted it. So even if the play breaks down, Allen has so much talent he can still make the play. Then there is the Titans game QB sneak trickery...also dumb how he called it. Having Josh moving before the snap from shotgun back under center for a quick snap helped create the scenario where Josh didn't have his feet set and you can see his foot slip on the snap. If you are going to run a power QB sneak, lineup and let your QB get his best footing for a push and ram it down their throat. It may not still have worked, but it sure would have had a better chance of it working had Josh dug in and not slipped. We probably still should have won the SB despite moments like this...so don't get me wrong, he had a lot of genius to him. He was not the reason we were not a SB champion last year. The blunder that started with our ST Coordinator not telling Bass the squib kick call was the domino that began to sink the ship. Everything else after was on Frazier and the defense.

So far, I would say he is a better HC than OC though. I had a love hate relationship with Daboll. I was fully aware he was a great OC for the most part...however, far too many times he would try and get too cute with bad play calls in critical moments. Far too many times he would call plays like he had an allergy to run plays. But overall, he was still amongst the better OC's in the league and is proving to be a great HC. I actually had pretty high expectations for him in NY because he really is a players coach, a guy people want to play hard for. And for me, that is one of the most important characteristics a HC can have because they either have it or they don't. They have a squishy schedule, and there is a lot of parody of the first McD season here...a team winning more than expected in what is the beginning of a total tear down. Daniel Jones is playing better, but I haven't seen enough yet to convince me that the new regime in NY feels confident in rebuilding around him. I still think they will go get their guy at QB, at least as of today. Maybe if DJ really starts to turn it on things might change, but they seem poised to lose Saquan this year, and Daniel Jones, even with his improvement thus far, can't carry that team IMHO. Just like how we made the playoffs with Tyrod under McD, they knew it was just about breaking the streak than it was about Tyrod sticking around as the QB to build around.

Sad to see young good players get hurt like this. They still have a pretty good young RB there in Carter, but Hall was having a sensational start to his career. Him and Walker look like future studs of the league at RB out of this draft.

He has to be up there as one of the all time waste of talents. He had it all talent wise, but he didn’t have the heart, commitment, or mental strength. Worst thing for him was he got paid big money before he earned it based on potential and then just coasted from there even more. He cashed in on his “potential” in KC and never looked back. Took that money and was content just being a role player, could care less about living up to his potential or contract.

Great thread idea OP… Mine came from business. Had a business mentor when I was 22 years old who had a motivational poster of a wolf that said be the alpha, lead the pack or something like that on it. So he used to always talk about that and to lead not follow…be your own boss…take charge of your life. It was more about being accountable and an Alpha in your life than being an Alpha to others. A couple years later I got hired at a mortgage company when I was like 24 and we had 15 mortgage brokers in our office. I’m 6’4” so people would often call me “big dog” because I’m tall. First full month I was there, the whole office closed 18 loans, and I closed 15 of them and the manager started calling me “Alpha Dog” (a play off “Big Dog”). Second month I was there the whole office closed 16 loans and I closed 14 of them. There was no third month there because I quit and opened my own mortgage company after those 2 months. I have been self employed ever since for past 20+ years. But the nickname I liked because it brought me back to those early days with an early business mentor. So for a little while I started using the name “Alphadawg” as a web site login name for fantasy sports. And created this account back then too. Funny, haven’t used it as a login in a least 10+ years now, plus most sites now ask for your email instead of a handle anyway. But the name Alphadawg was always more of a homage to someone I saw as an early business mentor and business mentality. My dad was my original business mentor and had by far the biggest impact on me, but this mentor came along like 4 years after my dad was murdered and just added more fuel to the fire my dad had already started. Funny thing is, I only worked for this mentor for like 6 months, but I learned a lot more than I realized then by being around him during that short stint. Although, a lot of what I learned didn’t even become apparent to me until after I was gone and starting my own businesses.

Me: McCaffrey only had 2 injury plagued seasons in Car, not 3 (as you originally stated). (FACT) You: Your posts will age poorly. Ummmmm...McCaffrey no longer plays in Car, so how can a fact that now can never change age poorly? LMAO This might be the most pointless and weirdest convo I have ever been involved with on here.

Hahah well you must have at least read your own article now cuz you went from incorrectly saying I was wrong to a pouty tantrum over not being right. Good talk. Lol

Haha…I hear ya, and I really don’t get it. He keeps posting back at me with an article that literally says verbatim the same thing I said but then says the article says I’m wrong. Makes no sense

Except I don’t hate Daboll. So once again, you don’t know what you’re talking about.

LMAO with this response. What is it you are so confused about? I mean seriously. I have literally said multiple times now it was 2 years of injuries in 2020 and 2021. Yet you keep posting at me with the same article that verbatim says it was…wait for it…TWO years and those 2 specific years. LMAO You however originally implied he’s missed time over THREE years, which is a false way to put it given he has NOT MISSED ANY GAMES THIS YEAR. So I don’t know what to tell you, because not only way the way you first said it is wrong, you for some reason keep posting an article that literally tells you that you are wrong. Maybe try reading the article you keep posting?

What are you even talking about anymore? Lmao You need a new schtick

What are you talking about? That’s TWO seasons. Just like I said.

No it’s not, you just like to argue non existent points. In a close game where passing was not working, we threw the ball 19 more times in the second half trying to force the pass as the weather got worse even though we were completing just 50%.

No you said he’s only played in 16 games in 3 years. You are literally calling this season a full year in that statement when ONLY 6 games have been played, which he has not missed any. He missed games with injuries in ONLY 2 seasons…2020 and 2021. Implying it’s been over 3 is a false statement. He played in 10 games over 2 years then played in 100% of the games this season. Those are the facts, you don’t get to skew the language them to make them sound worse. So did Fred Taylor, and then they took the steps to make sure they prevented it from persisting and he spent the rest of his career mostly injury free and had a long great career. Im not saying he definitely won’t still get injuries, I’m just saying it’s not a foregone conclusion he will either.

No he hasn’t been hurt 2-3 years. He was hurt 2 different seasons at Car. You are not correct