GaryPinC

If the bike is supposed to obey all traffic laws same as a car then you're the one who's got it wrong. If the car in front of you clearly has his turn signal on then he has the right of way to execute his turn and as the trailing vehicle you must yield to him. Just because you have a bike lane doesn't mean the rules of the road don't apply, simply that cars must stay out of that section of road. Share the road.

It's obvious the Sanford Police did not conduct a rigorous investigation of this case, but that doesn't mean they've botched it either. Let's keep in mind that they have a 911 call from Zimmerman himself, a prime witness whose separate interview matched well with Zimmerman's story, and the evidence on the scene. Zimmerman beaten up, Martin dead, both maybe not too far away from Zimmerman's vehicle, out in the open. Zimmerman got treated so there must be a record of that. Martin's dead and other than the gunshot, did not appear to have sustained injuries consistent with a struggle(according to the coroner). So, either it was a one sided fight or there was no fight, but it's obvious from Zimmerman's head and witnesses there was a struggle. The only direct evidence I've read against Zimmerman is the independent voice analysis which states the probability of it being Zimmerman is much lower than it should be. But the "help" voice recording was from a witnesses phone, meaning there was significant distance between the phone and voice. They also could not say it was Martin because they didn't have his voice sample, so it's hard to say what this analysis means. I think the Sanford PD saw this as an open and shut case and didn't feel the need to investigate it further. Should they have? I think so, but that probably won't change the outcome. All these investigators combing this case and still no charges against Zimmerman. But they've ruled out a grand jury so they've ruled out first degree murder. It'll certainly be interesting to see what charges, if any, they decide on.

Well, she is still wearing her wedding ring 5 years later. Of course, that presumes she was being truthful about his demise.

Really? Collar change may be tolerable but I find the cleats a whole new definition of ugly. So much red really distracts from the rest of the uni. To each his own I guess.

Agree, it's hard to say what these teams are thinking other than he is not good enough to be their starting LT for the $$. Surprises me Philly didn't even offer him.

I also thought the writer comes off a bit snotty about Bell. While it's not clear, I think the writer is inferring Bell would be moved to right tackle (over Brandon Keith). From the article: "Bell would be an upgrade over the Levi Brown/Brandon Keith tackle combo." So the writer probably feels Bell should be asking for starting RT money instead of starting LT.

Got it all figured out just like the national media, don't ya? Way to regurgitate.

Ok, I'll try and keep it simple. Keep in mind I have lived on the far n. eastern side of town for about 8 years so living info may be a bit dated. lets start with the google map for Cleveland, OH: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&sugexp=frgbld&gs_nf=1&cp=12&gs_id=z&xhr=t&rlz=1R2GPMA_en&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1920&bih=913&wrapid=tljp1333045283475022&q=cleveland+ohio&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x8830ef2ee3686b2d:0xed04cb55f7621842,Cleveland,+OH&gl=us&ei=Jqh0T-PoCqP40gHesImAAw&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=image&resnum=1&sqi=2&ved=0CCsQ8gEwAA You can see the city limits outlined in pink. With the exception of downtown and a few small areas, you do NOT want to live within the city limits. Most of the firing line neighborhoods are east of I-77 but the western ones are still fairly poor for the most part. Next 2 important links: http://www.riderta.com/ http://www.clemetparks.com/ Good luck interpreting the bus schedule. They do have a rail line that runs from downtown to the airport (red line) so he could live downtown if he wants. Downtown living seems decent except there's not a lot of grocery stores unless you go to the West side Market @ W. 25th and Lorain. My wife and I feel safe going/walking downtown. Places to live: 1. Berea is a bit crowded but still has a remnant small town feel with Baldwin Wallace College located there. Near the Metroparks, airport is very close. Definitely some high rises there, not sure on pricing. Lots of chain restaurants near there, don't know the area well enough. It gets even more crowded when the Browns open training camp there. Cuyahoga County fairgrounds right there also. 2. Lakewood is a very affordable dense suburb with a lot of things to do. There are a lot of niche stores, performing arts, concerts etc. There are some high rises but a lot of the rentals are duplexes from the '40's and '50's. They are generally well maintained/updated but a few are not. Overall it has the feel of an old time quaint city neighborhood. My wife and I lived there for a short time and enjoyed it. There's a mix of owners and renters, families, single young professionals, but some economically disadvantaged people too. Lots of bars, restaurants. Bars have a history of serving decent food and it's easy to go in alone, get a decent reasonably priced dinner and hang out. Rocky river is nicer than lakewood but with less rental opportunities. Two negatives about Lakewood. -train tracks run between Clifton and Detroit. After we left they supposedly rerouted as much as possible south through Brookpark, but in my time there was always a train coming through between 2-4 am. I'd recommend living south of Detroit Rd. -Eastern Lakewood was a bit crappier. When we lived there the rule of thumb was to live west of Bunts/W. 140. Now I'd focus west of Warren. Near Berea, Strongsville, Middleburg Heights, Broadview Heights, N. Royalton are all nice, but mostly generic. Strongsville has a nice mall and I think would be the best of the bunch for things going on. Westlake is a popular area to rent(with a nice outdoor mall), North Olmstead/Olmstead Falls is also. Not sure about affordability and ease of public transport though. Brookpark and Parma I do not prefer. Brookpark is very industrial with lots of strip clubs, Parma is crammed full of small houses from the 60's with a large subpopulation of people that never left the 1980's. Parma Heights is somewhat better, they especially hate being associated with Parma. Outdoor things to do: Edgewater park is within biking of Lakewood, beach and fishing pier. There's also Whiskey Island (Wendy Park) right there where people hang out in the summer . Another fishing pier out in Rocky river, they charge a couple bucks access though. Not much for inland lakes around Cleveland, it's either Erie or one of the rivers. Rocky River metropark ends in Lakewood and steelhead fishing is very good except for the summer. Nice long paved trail there but only small side trails. Cuyahoga Valley Nat'l Park is best bet for hiking but Cleveland parks are designed for nice walks, not proper hiking. The zoo is also nearby, there's a science center, aquarium(not worth it), Rock and Roll hall of fame, museums, comedy clubs, orchestra, Indians/Browns/Cavs games, monthly local artist shows. Good restaurants too. Well, this is getting longer than I wanted. To me, Lakewood is probably best bet if you don't have a car but that's just me. Let me know or PM me if you have more specific questions.

Agree, he also received medical treatment, there's got to be a record and witness, if nothing more than an ambulance and paramedic. Why aren't they tracking this down instead of speculating over grainy videos. Just more mob hysteria. Well said, completely agree. I have to give a special shout out to the democrats in congress for their role also.

It's a great idea if you intend for the government to take over health insurance.

Obama, the democrats, much of the media, and every black activist is convinced this is Rodney King 2012. Even if Zimmerman's version is the truth, I worry investigators will declare him guilty anyways.

Is he single/family? Age? What are his interests/hobbies? Will he have a car at all or totally public transp. dependent?

Agree 100% on everything. Thought his footwork was slow on pass plays but maybe part of it was because of it being his first year here. Buddy/Chan feel Hairston is the main at LT so we'll see how it goes.

Haven't seen this posted here, apologies if I missed it. http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2012/03/26/nix-update-on-demetrius-bell/ Sounds like Buddy's set on Hairston at LT.

My vote will not be simply based on this case. There are things about Obama I like and things I do not. I am not enamored with the man but currently think he's better than any of the Republican candidates. If Zimmerman is fully exonerated after a host of investigations we run the risk of racial violence. Obama decided to make this case personal, as our leader he therefore needs to responsibly step up and make every effort to diffuse the situation before it explodes. If Zimmerman is exonerated and all the African American activists/leaders just shut up and slink away I feel we will see racial violence and that these leaders will be condoning it with their inaction. That would be the tipping point for me wanting Obama out. If you think that's too simple or too harsh, well that's how I feel about it. Disclosure: In my 20's I was much more of a conservative than I am now at 42. I am a registered independent and consider myself just right of center.

Really? From Zimmerman's account it sounds like Martin in fact had eluded him but decided to circle back and kick his ass. So he did just what you thought he should and he's dead now. If Zimmerman hadn't had a gun, he might have ended up dead or severely injured. All because of a simple misunderstanding. You, sir, and this mentality are part of the problem. This situation could have been avoided if both of these guys had set aside their prejudices and talked to each other. Doesn't sound like Martin was cornered at any point in time, he also could have just run away and left the situation behind him. I hope you give this some serious thought and readjust your attitude. There is certainly a time where your best option is to "go ghetto" but right now this shooting indicates the reverse. "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon." This. Personalizing a kid and a situation he really doesn't know or understand. If Zimmerman's story turns out to be closest to reality will our passionate president publicly step up and acknowledge it? I had been willing to vote for him this fall. If Martin's really the one at fault and Obama can't have the balls to stand up and acknowledge it no way do I even consider Obama for a second term.

After reading the articles referenced in this thread, I am thinking George Zimmerman never ended his call with 911 and the police have this audio that supports his version of things. Obviously they never arrested him and never pressed any charges. They are very definitive (beyond "John's" statements) that the person yelling for help was indeed Zimmerman. They sound very willing to let any outside investigators examine their work, and it says there was a minute of silence on the phone when they couldn't tell what was going on (guessing this was when Zimmerman was looking for Martin). I am guessing the reason Martin's parents had to sue to get the 911 tapes released was because they are to be used as evidence and upon forcing the issue police withheld the crucial last part of the recording that includes the actual altercation. This presumes the police did their jobs properly and weren't clouded by racism. I am also wondering if the initial photo of George Zimmerman looking like a beat-up thug was one of the photos police took of him that night. Curious as to what others think of this scenario, and I have not listened to the 911 call(s).

Just started following this story in more depth, agree with others that the local law enforcement and jury need to sort this out. It is to me absolutely disgraceful that our president goes shooting his mouth off about a racially charged issue before he has any of the facts. This is not the first time he has done this, and people may die because of an overly inflamed racially-tense situation. I really hope the Republicans can get their candidate's sh*t together before the election because we need a better statesman in the oval office. I am one who generally dislikes the press and their sensationalism (with words and carefully selected photos) but let's also credit the Orlando Sentinel and Miami Herald for trying to round out this story for all of us.

Yea, how can you not? Seems like a real great story emerging, I also agree that he looks fantastic. I'll be interested to see where they work him on the O-line this year. If he's lost even more weight from when they brought him in, with his athletic ability I'm wondering if they try him as backup swing tackle.

Agree, hearing Kyle's perspective definitely helped, can't blame Mario for wanting to check out the working environment either. Got my fingers crossed.

Let's be realistic though. Previously scheduled meetings get cancelled when a player decides to sign. Bills have gone on record that they are willing to offer Mario top $$ so money is not an issue. You see how fast Meachum signed (it was a lot more money from what I hear). Mario not signing yesterday says to me he has some doubts about coming here. This team was 6-10 and still hasn't proved anything yet, so Mario would be taking a pretty big chance coming here. He's a premier talent and he probably wants to win a superbowl. Will playing here during his prime years give him a great chance at a superbowl? And this has nothing to do with the image of the city. If he's still in town there's hope, if he leaves there's still a chance but probably a better chance he signs elsewhere for less money.

Nice, I wonder what future karma God has in store for someone who refers to his kids as "tools"? Hopefully it also catches up with the guy who "loves it" and thinks it's "hilarious".

Gotta love Fitz's dedication and sense of humor, looks like he cut that himself! Really happy to see SJ back. Thanks to the Bills FO and him for getting this done. Always great to see a guy happy to be here. Time to settle up with Fred.

I'd rather not speculate about what happens to the FO when Mr. Wilson finally checks out, any guesses would be pure folly if they indeed turn out to be true. As for Buddy, I think it's his job to support his coach's decisions and get him the personnel he needs. In my mind the entire 3-4/Edwards thing is on Gailey. I also haven't condemned the 2010 draft yet. I think end of season 2012 will be a more fitting time to judge the 2010 draft.

Agree, but sounds like Overdorf handles a good bit of it. Article also gave me the impression that Whaley wasn't too high up the ladder in Pittsburgh so he's got a whole lot to learn, and that he will be given more team/personnel opportunities as he progresses. Another impression was that Buddy sounds like he has a plan knows what he's doing as a GM. I state this in contrast to criticisms when he was hired (including an unnamed "NFL executive") that Buddy was a lifelong scout and not really GM material.