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Dems trying so hard to manage the mob turning into modern Nazis.

If I'm the Bills, I'm calling Carolina again. They dont have a second round pick next year. Trade 60, our second next year for 39 this year. At 33 and 39, you could double on WR or take DeJean and probably end up with one of Mitchell, McConkey or Franklin.

OK. Fair enough. In my opinion it’s not a rule but a consideration. I again would implore you to wait and see what the team does today before you finalize this opinion.

We haven't yet lost out on Mitchell or Franklin, so yes.

We'll see over the next few years, but if I'm just looking for a guy to run off the deep coverage, I like Franklin better than Worthy. BTJ was the best pure deep threat of the top prospects, but Franklin was damn close from what I saw. I have significant concerns about AD Mitchell, but he's still available. And I like McConkey in that role as well, though I do think he's a step down from those.

People saying we helped KC are really that dense? We got equal trade value per the Rich Hill value chart and turned a 4th into a 3rd rd pick. KC would have drafted Worthy where they sat or even in the 29,30 or 31 spot. The Bills didn't want Worthy. We went all of 4 spots back.... oh no!

I’ve been surprised there’s not more talk of JPJ or Kool-Aid. Both great fits in our schemes, good/great value and spots of fairly significant need.

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A fair point. But his speed is special. And if you prepared to leverage it schematically, it can have a huge effect on the rest of your offense. That’s my projection anyway, and I’m gonna be watching to see if that’s how it actually plays out.

So many bills fans make excuses for this team. We’re always a step behind KC. When will you guys admit that? After they beat us a few more times in the playoffs? KC viewed worthy as worth trading up for. We need Wr more than they do. I trust KC mgmt team over ours. It’s pretty simple.

All I know is whoever we draft today is “who we wanted all along” lol

Considering Andy Reid has struggled to find a productive WR in KC outside of Tyreek Hill, I’m going to say I don’t care. Also, Worthy may have the fastest 40 time, but it doesn’t guarantee he plays fast. He’s going to get beat to hell… he’s not Tyreek. Tyreek’s speed isn’t what makes him so unique - despite everyone wanting to boil it down to that.

So we would move up for a WR in the second after moving down to get a pick to move back up later for the same position.

I think being is a A- general manager. He’s quite excellent in many ways. But there is a margin of difference between how he constructs this team and how McDermott coaches it and what Andy Reid is doing. And that’s what I’m interested in. What is that difference and why does it seem, so decisive and leading to these outcomes?

Thank god Beane has the ammo to draft the fourth or fifth best safety and the 10th best WR instead of drafting the 4th or 5th WR. This will be wonderful for us. And we wonder why no one steps up in the playoffs lol. JAG team building mentality.

So you refuse to see the potential for it to work out ok for the Bills and even be a gain because you perceive the risk to make the chiefs better too great but you also refuse to consider how the Chiefs would have gotten the player they wanted anyway. Ok.

I believe what i read was dogging routes when he doesn't think he'll get the ball.

You realize some run better without equip on, while others with equip on run faster than him. what about all those supposedly dumb GMs thst passed him over if he’s that special……

I looked up the last 20 drafts and was somewhat surprised to see a team has trading down from the first pick of the second round only twice. It happened in 2015 and 2007. https://www.prosportstransactions.com/football/DraftTrades/Years/2007.htm You would think with nearly 24hrs to take trade calls it would happen more often. Now, the Bills are in a somewhat rare spot where they have traded down twice starting late in the first round to end up at #33. They seem to be a much more willing team to move the #33 pick then perhaps many of the teams that have held the first pick of the 2nd round in previous drafts.

Anyone think one of these two wrestling centers- Powers-Johnson and Frazier- might be in play? I think it's interior OL, DeJean, or another trade back.

You could tell by the look on Penixs face that he was not happy with the pick.

I agree bud. I have been pounding and fighting off these posters all month. We are loaded with capital now. We can fill holes that this team needs. The other rumour out there is Ayouk for two second round pix: One tonight and one next year. We have both. If SF and Beane can get it done I'm happy and we still hold a second round pick tonight with that deal. Perfect!

Beane gained 124 spots in draft position to give up 5. The Bills now have two 2nds, a 3rd, and four (!!!) 4ths. That’s a win. Who gives a @#$% what the Chefs do?

This pick is what puts KC over the top finally.

100% this. It’s human to want the bright and shiny object, but this team has a lot of needs both short and long-term.