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I think they are still around but not anymore in my neck of the woods

That was the Chan offense, get out in space!

Still skeptical of government power, still question everything, still recognize that the camp I’m in— the “Holy crap I hope the evidence they saw that convinced them that they had to act at this level, at this time”—-and hope it turns out to be the correct camp to be in. It’s ultimately a luxury to sit and judge this (or any) military action, and I’m mindful that I could be in the wrong camp. However, the international community, keepers of the peace, etc all seem to point to the conclusion that Iran unchecked was going in one direction and that was a very bad thing. That they chose that path tilts the scale for me. I think I’m pretty consistent in this regard. I appreciate your diplomacy before death approach to this situation, but I see a certain amount of naivety in parsing between a day, a month and a year with the stakes here. The Iranians were in the catbird seat and simply had to agree not to do that which everyone (even a non-intervention interventionist in a Hillary Clinton pantsuit like you) feels they should not be done. You’re apparently willing to wait unit the bomb is made but not yet deployed, I’m hoping the decision was appropriate and they dealt with it before that happened.

We’ll see if they can lay mines and sink a couple of tankers using surface mussels. And I don’t doubt for a second that we knew of the Israelis’ move on Iran in advance.

I didn't state it as fact. The "if" kinda gives it away. Was it a "five day delay" or was it a planned delay to let Israel neuter Iran's air defenses first? You don't know. I don't know. But you seem to believe your view as fact. I anticipated your argument to be "it doesn't matter. Needed to be done". And I would argue against that because of war powers....

Trump's America, right @Big Blitz?

Thanks, Buffalo 716. I don't pretend to know the technical intricacies of NFL football, but your explanation matches what I understood to be true. The offensive systems (at least today) are languages. They may have at one time carried philosophical implications, but not so much anymore. For example, the West Coast offense was geared to more of a short passing game, designed to spread defenses out horizontally. The running game was more of a change of pace tool to keep defenses honest. Now, it's more about the philosophy of the head coach/offensive coordinator. There are West coast guys that like to run the ball more and guys that like to run it less, and guys who like passing the ball deep and those who don't, sometimes depending on the skill sets of the players. You can run any play in Erhardt-Perkins that you can run in the West Coast and vice versa.

You’re not making a point - you’re cosplaying as a patriot vomiting out every buzzword you heard on Fox News. You deflect, project, and foam at the mouth about madeup enemies because reality left you behind. Your entire rant is a mix of paranoia and playground-level insults. No one here thinks standing for human rights or due process means 'supporting terrorists.' That’s just the lazy fantasy you need to believe so you can keep pretending your side has the moral high ground - which it does not.

Yeah, there is no way he had good advanced stats.

No surprise here. You post a theory and then claim "foul" based on the denied theory being true. All evidence points otherwise. Nimitz would not have suddenly been redeployed to the IO resulting in a five day delay, if the US would have "known." They would have been there. Believe whatever you want, just don't state the belief as fact.

We don't know this. "I want to thank and congratulate Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu. We worked as a team like perhaps no team has ever worked before, and we’ve gone a long way to erasing this horrible threat to Israel. I want to thank the Israeli military for the wonderful job they’ve done." The timing is vague at best. If we were working with them from the onset of the attack, that changes things imo. That would mean we were planning war all along which congress should have least been apprised of, if not voted on. The timing matters.

Like you lit the fuse, you think it's fictional? Mystical? Maybe, spiritual hero Who appears in you to clear your view when you're too crazy? Lifeless to those, the definition for what life is Priceless to you, because I put you on the hype ***** You like it? Gun smokin', righteous with one toke Get psychic among those, possess you with one dose

Stevie said he used his basketball cross over (AI style as you said) to bust press coverage. He routinely put Revis Island on ice skates

Sometimes the most obvious answer is the correct one. The US did not know, thank God, of Israeli strike plans that were so incredibly successful. To design a strike as complicated as what we just pulled off takes an immense amount of planning and coordination. That takes time, and that detailed planning is what allowed the execution to be so successful. I fully doubt the Russia/Tehran (IRGC), suggestion re the Strait of Hormuz in your post. I don't think it's at all likely. The IRGC has been decapitated.

My theory is that you live in the east and not anywhere affected by federal land management. Is that correct?

I don’t disagree with the point. But it actually undercuts the timing of the Trump actions. Once the horse is out of the barn (through the Israeli attack), why wait off you’re going to bomb? All the delay did was give Iran time and space to empty valuables from Fordow, like the enriched uranium that we appear to have missed. The next thing the Putin machine is going to do is help Iran close Hormuz. Maybe even furnish the weaponry to try to sink a USN carrier. In the near term the price of Russian crude exports increases. And, in the long term, it’s a chip for them to play to help get Ukraine’s benefactors to back off.

Yep, he was pretty impressive in that regard

Again just popping in quickly: some solid arguments made on both "sides". I'm impressed w PPP which, well, sometimes doesn't have the best rep, lol! @ComradeKayAdams we may have different perspectives on domestic or geopolitical issues, but I "liked" you bc you present (fr what I've seen) reasoned, sober thinking. Seriously, I respect that. But...I will briefly take issue with your statement: “Imminent” = on the order of days or weeks or months, not a year or longer. There has been ZERO evidence suggesting the danger was imminent. Perhaps some folks here have/had what is called CNWDI or Q clearance. If so, they might understand my gentle suggestion: When one looks syncretically re the corpus of current and historical evidence (open or otherwise) of the IR NWP--or even data of other nuclear powers--there is most assuredly an "imminent path" from A to B. What one does with that understanding is another matter entirely. I'm not trying to be overly opaque...but it's what I can offer here.

Honestly, Coleman could learn a lot from Stevie. One of the most unique release packages in the game