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Need a whole separate thread for worst playoff losses. Which is telling...

Its funnyl how much people forget - its the old "backup QB is the most popular guy on the team" stuff here. This board had a fire Daboll thread practically after every loss. Just like they did with Dorsey and now Brady. Daboll drove everyone crazy with getting stupid and cute in critical moments - sound familiar? Just like everyone hates with Brady right now, Daboll did it ten fold. Daboll was allergic to running the ball, it was a big part of the tension with him and McD, the complete lack of balance. Even when it was working first half he would abandon it 2nd half even if it meant we would lose. Cook is our best offensive weapon, bringing in an OC who was like pulling teeth to even attempt the run the ball doesn't make a lot of sense when are one of the best running teams in the NFL. Daboll also under utilized the TE's too when he was here, another strong suit of our offense now. McD and Daboll did not part on good terms, and neither wants to work with the either. But here we are, suddenly everyone thinks Daboll is the answer as if they don't remember anything from the last go around. And while I am also frustrated with Brady this year, there is almost no chance he gets fired midseason when the team is still amongst the highest scoring in the league and also trounced KC and came back in a big was on Ravens. When Dorsey got fired, the offense was completely inept and was averaging 8 points less per week the final 6 weeks he was here than it did the rest of the year under Brady. Daboll is going to have plenty of suitors, no idea why anyone would think he is going to come back to work here when neither him or McD has any interest to work together. And even if they did, not sure how he is the savior people are making him out to be based on the strengths of this team right now.

Has Daboll taken out full page ads in NYC thanking Giants fans yet?

Speculatively speaking, Kincade is out for 3-4 games. Probably be back for the Bengals game.

2nd worst, but the team is regressing and looked totally unprepared in a way we haven't seen

beane wonders what beane is doing.

I actually think the AFC Championship Game in January 2021 in KC was the worst loss. We were a hot, young team riding a wave and came out like we expected to lose. The second was the AFC CG last year. In both cases, we were a win from the Super Bowl. All other losses, including 13 seconds, pale in comparison.

Heard today that Burrow is in his 21 day window. He will likely be playing against the Bills in week 17.

I think the defense has underachieved in the playoffs, definitely. Equally in 2019 the offense puking all over itself up 16 and turning the ball over was a big part of the collapse. And neither side of the ball played well in the 2020 AFCCG. 2021 was totally on defense. 2022 both sides of the ball. 2023 and 2024 defense bad but offense had the ball at the end chance to win and couldn't get it done both times. But the regular season defense has, despite your protestations, been good until the last year and a half. If you want to knock the last year and a half be my guest. But if you have watched every snap of the era and say the defense has only had about 5 good games you are lying.

Who is jlv football? from JAG media…. just a guy With a keyboard

It's more like ... O bleak. (Pa-dum, ting)

Not sure either of those sources are any better than us throwing crap at the wall here on the board. Especially with the specific wording "expected to have interest". Great way of saying nothing.

When all you have to do is load up against our run game and go after allen, his sack numbers are going to go up

There are too many bad losses to choose just one.

appears to me that Allen is being instructed not to run sometimes. He did not run once in the first half against Miami, seemed to be leashed. They are trying to make force JA into the role of pocket passer. they let him run in the second half. He needs to go when he smells an opening, and is hanging in to long. They are messing w his style. This doesn't in any way oppose the argument the the wideouts are weak as a group. shakir is fine, after that not much. Coleman is big, not fast, and unreliable. He snagged one td yesterday and had another one he couldn't get to on the deflection. Those contested balls were supposed be his thing, but that isn't working out.

I would normally agree with you. But Yesterday was really bad. I have been watching the All-22. Usually, when I do that, I see an opposing defense that made some good plays. That's what I saw when I looked at the Pats and Falcons games. So I wasn't so down. But what I see here is: A Bills team that wouldn't stop running into packed boxes A bunch of WRs who either can't get open or take too long to get open An OC who isn't scheming the WRs open. He also telegraphs with personnel grouping when the team is running or passing. A QB who refuses to throw into NFL tight windows. Too many times he took the checkdown from clean pockets before waiting for the play to develop downfield. The offense was a cluster from the start of the game. It looked like they didn't prrepare at all. And when they finally got rolling, they turned the ball over in brutal fashion. I can't take anything positive from it. We'll have to see how they respond, but that was one ugly game.

As a consultant IMO would be a really great addition for the offense and Josh especially

I could understand that strategy if he was actually good at drafting players, but he's not. Not even Cooper moved the needle much.

I know one of the criticisms against him was how he (didn’t) run the ball when he was in buffalo he had Devin singletary and Zach moss

Okay, whatever. He's a genius.

Instead of cutting Samuel we should be starting him. Get Colman off the field and give him to the guy that can actually play in this league

The Bucs are 6-3 just like the Bills. I am not saying it won't be a tough game because it probably will be. But let's not make them out to be the dynasty Patriots teams when we all knew the Bills had no chance. Plus, aren't the Bucs dealing with a bunch of injuries as well.

I want what you’re smoking