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I quit watching the NBA altogether because of this at long time ago when Michael Jordon and Charles Barkley were still playing. I still watch NFL even though I think games are massaged by officiating because I can't help it. I'm addicted. I appreciate baseball more and more as it seems the most on the up and up of US professional sports leagues.

Based off recent history, I think they'll get to at least 11. If I were to put money on it it would be 12-5. Losses to the Chiefs, Texans, and Eagles. That's only if the injuries settle down a little bit which is a big if.

10-7 and a wild card exit. My belief and enthusiasm levels have waned dramatically. Our defensive guru of a HC cannot coach a defence to stop a runny nose. Our OC has gone off the reservation with whacky trick plays and a penchant for keeping our second best player on the bench for too many plays. And our GM couldn't find an offensive weapon in a gun store. It's not happening this year and it won't until Terry Pegula finally wakes up and smells the coffee. .

The answer might be surprising Answer: Fame was released by Bowie in 1975, Hot (I need to be loved) by James Brown was released 10 months later. A case can be made that JB also ripped off Jungle Boogie in the bass run. Jungle Boogie was released in 1973.

Olave or Waddle...anything else is just repeating previous mistakes. And it still chaps my ass to think all Beane would've had to give Seattle is a 2nd round pick for DK....let that sink in when you're thinking about TJ Sanders.

Ha! Stanford beats Florida State 20-13. That makes the Seminoles 0-4 in the ACC

Nobody can beat Brady presnap. Mostly because of the cameras and cheating system though.

It is - I think I need hearing aids.

9-8. This team has serious issues, especially on defense. The only team we've truly 'beaten' with across the board decent play from all three phases is the lowly Jets. I feel like the Paytoilets exposed our offense and all other teams will follow suit by playing straight man coverage and make Josh beat the blitz. Hey, I would love nothing better than for JA17 to bring home the Lombardi, but it's gonna be a long season and short post season.

This thread isn’t masculine enough for me, I’m out

That guy named Klein…

This guy is looking for a fairy tale ending...

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I too hate when threads become political, Dick Cheney.

13-4. Bills largely right the ship coming out of the bye week and get on a couple winning streaks. Figuring they may lose to the Chiefs in there, among a few other potential roadblocks. But only go down in two of those games, and need to win in Week 18 to get the 1 seed.

You call this roster loaded which sort of hurts credibility. We are so “loaded” we are forced to start rookies and backups you give credit to because we can’t find better talent. Thats how you reach the level Beane has with this roster. Your C rated draft picks either start with no competition (Bishop, Coleman) or out of pure necessity (Dorian Williams). Let’s say even some of what you’re saying is right in defending this garbage, what exactly was the plan at CB? You said yourself what we should and should not expect from a rookie or young player. Yet we come into the season completely dependent on a rookie or we are starting Tre White. After about 2 years of giving McD hell in nearly every post on the subject at the end of last years playoffs I made a post about the talent level and Beane specifically. Which might be hard to separate from McD. We really don’t know how much should fall on him from a talent perspective. But if I had to say what is more clearly holding us back between coaching and talent, it’s talent, and it’s not really close. We have an army of players that are fringe starters getting regular reps. Palmer is a #3 a best, Coleman might not even be a #3 at this point, Samuel is not even a #3, Moore is not a #3, Bishop is not a starter, Williams is not a starter, Tre White is not a starter, Bernard, Rapp, and Jones are fringe starters. That's over half our defense for gods sake and the entire WR room outside of Shakir. But what is the best part of all of this? Every single guy I called out besides Bishop is not just a one year starter, but a mutlti year starter. We got to see the suck last year and we said lets go with round two!

If no one else wins more than 11 games, I like our chances to get at least 12 wins and get the 1 seed. I’d actually be shocked if no one in the AFC gets 12 wins or more.

Yup. Insanely disappointing but sadly par for the course for some folks on here.

Hahahahahahahaha what ****ing losers All old white racist boomers to.

How has this thread title been allowed to stay for 15 hours and counting