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Not one 1st round WR drafted since Josh Allen's rookie year is mind boggling!

I don’t think this would be from lack of talent. They lost their QB for a significant amount of time. The Bills would be similarly worse off if we lost Josh for that amount of time.

Shaq Lawson is back on our roster mate …signed him a couple of weeks ago …it was widely discussed here at the time …probably even more negatively than Jordan Poyer in this thread

Cooks getting open downfield will cure a lot of offensive ills for us.

Hmmm. Bahhhhh. Bahhhhh. “Cooked”. “Toast”. Bunch of JV talent evaluators round these parts.

I suspect it’s the case of the tests arent perfect because the body and brain are rarely 100% predictable yet alone by other humans quickly on a sidelines quickly as possible we will see if something more to it but it’s third party outsiders

Yeah, man is taxing. Add in condensed sets that make it difficult to sort out man responsibilities post-snap with all the switching that occurs. Add in the choice routes that just run away from your leverage. Add in a Quarterback who, as you stated, is smart and can diagnose all of this based on your pre-snap presentation. It still sound as good? There has to be a healthy mix in order for a defense to be successful. At the end of the day if you sit in one thing all game you're going to get picked apart. That first drive alone we ran 10 different coverages (Cover 3, Cover 4, 2 Man, Cover 6, Tampa, 4 Buzz, 2 Invert, 2 Sky, and what I call Combo (Split Safety Coverage), and Cover 1). If you're going to feel out a first drive and see how an opponent is going to attack you while still disguising and showing a whole heck of a lot of post-snap presentation I'd say we did a pretty good job of making Burrow think - all while showing tight coverage pre-snap to not allow him to get anything out quick to at least give our pass rush a chance (as bad as they are). At the end of the day, if we don't miss a tackle on a check-down to Perine it's a completely different start to the game. It's 2 man - he blew the coverage. You can see McDermott yelling at him from the sideline. Go peep TJ Sanders dropping into coverage on one of our Sims where we bring Poyer from the opposite side. Hancock blew the coverage. It was 2 man there as well. Left Tre hanging. Young players making young player mistakes.

Maye played Cleveland and Atlanta and still put up 30 points. He has also played extremely well with out his star left tackle, another lineman and without Kayshon Boutte for a little while 2 defensive coaches.. Mike Vrabel is an excellent coach who also has one of the best offensive coordinators of all time in Josh McDaniels, with superbowl experience.

Not since week 11

Virgil's OPs have become too negative for me, but we've already discussed that so no point in doing it again. I'd just like to add one thought. I already said in post game thread that McDermott gets a lot of heat for being too conservative, but he was as aggressive as needed in this game (apart from kicking the first FG, which was a good decision imo). After that, we went for each 4th down. He especially deserves credit for going for it on 4&goal with 3.09 min to go up 32-28 from 3 yard line. It required some Allen magic (with help from OL and Hawes), but it was bold and good decision anyway.

Cool. If Pats lose this game, gives us the chance to win the division with even 12 wins.

As I said, I think it's by design. Nothing happens by accident with McDermott. Thanks. These are good points. When they got to Buffalo, they said their approach was that the team would get better every season. They were clear that they would not mortgage the future to make a quick run to the Super Bowl, followed by a tear down. That is not what they're trying to do.

Let me play devil's advocate. Where is there actual suggestion of malfeasance and/or negligence? Contrary to what 90% of people on this board are professing to know with certainty, hitting one's head and pointing to it does not constitute a concussion. Assuming the team physicians and independent neurological consultants followed protocol, and assuming there was no OBJECTIVE evidence of a concussion despite multiple assessments, including a reported assessment in the locker room at half time, what justification do they have for then holding a player out of the game? The league protocol doesn't suggest they hold players out on the suspicion despite a negative assessment. Higgins himself, after the game, said he underwent multiple assessments that he passed, and was then asked if he was comfortable with returning to play. This is not a compound fracture that is diagnosed with certainty the minute it happens. There is no fool proof test that identifies all concussions. Unfortunately, many of these instances become clearer with hindsight. For reference, here is the NFLPA response to the Tua incident with the "back injury" that outlines changes made to the protocol pretty clearly. Assuming Higgins had no concussion symptoms, and there were no "no-go" findings on his assessment, there was no medical obligation to hold him out of the game based on the current league protocol - https://nflpa.com/posts/concussion-protocols-where-we-stand-now.

Having a 5’ 11” slot cab line up against a 6’ 6” TE probably isn’t the wisest decision. It’s not all on Taron, the assignments are doing him no favors. Lewis on the other hand is just god awful and has no business being on an active NFL roster.

We made the playoffs with TT with a weaker roster lol

Baltimore tends to play well at home during night games (although not this Thanksgiving) so let's hope that continues. If we don't beat the Pats, we might be rooting for them to keep the Ravens out.

If the Bengals beat the Ravens this week it could be an elimination game for Baltimore.

One random fun wrinkle that popped up on the all-22. On Benford's CB blitz into a sack we had Ja'Marr Chase being double covered by Shaq Thompson and... Greg Rousseau 😂 Here's the play: Good aggressive play call in a moment where we really needed a negative play. Another note - Hancock is athletic but he doesn't really know what he's supposed to be doing on a lot of his plays. The TD to Higgins with Tre in coverage, Hancock inexplicably comes way downhill seemingly to cover Gesicki who is already bottled up, meanwhile Tre looks like he's expecting help deep and inside and it isn't there. Bishop on the other hand didn't give up anything as far as I could tell and had a couple nice run fills from depth.

💯 my thoughts exactly. i figured we’d be getting the 2024 version of Rapp. McD alluded to him being injured all season, not sure if he’s just covering for the guy or what, but he was abysmal this season and sinking the ship. Poyer was just what this defense needed. Theres still plenty of time for him to get exposed, but he’s been solid.

If Redhawk was a woman.

I love this and I will add that a huge issue the Bills had is timing. Beane is very calculating and is drafting not for this year, but typically the following FA class. Where things fell apart in his plan was when Josh got good and needed his extension. It was COVID years and Beane had to pay Josh, but the overall Cap went down rather than going up as was planned. They lost a ton of available Cap space that he had planned to use. The 2 Covid years coincided with the timing that they would of had some extra money before the big part of Josh’s extension kicked in and instead of having the money like NE will with Maye - the Bills had to kick some money down the road with the drop in salary cap. They have been fighting that ever since just to retain their talent and bring in help. The Bills could have done the Eagles approach and get rid of a ton of talent - fall apart and miss the playoffs a couple of times and then hope the higher draft picks in the top 10 then increase your talent, but everyone would flip out missing the playoffs. Teams like SF, LA, Cincinnati, Houston, NE all had to be really bad to get better - the Bills are maintaining their excellent level, but it comes with a talent drain that they have to overcome. You see the same thing in KC right now. It happens to consistently good teams over time.

I think the issue is some games are protected by the TV networks

Their defense is quite good vs the run.

Correct me if I’m wrong, the Chiefs went 30 yards in 9 seconds on 2 plays and used 1 timeout. Bengals went 66 yards in 50 seconds with no timeouts. As far as the result I agree with you, 13 seconds is about as bad as it gets, only thing worse is a music city forward lateral scenario. Yesterday, all the Bills had to do was no let them score with more than 2 minutes remaining (1 minute of clock time) and the game was over…and they couldn’t do it.

Maybe the Patriots plan is to run it. Have him get the ball out quick. They are missing OL. I think the Patriots are also due for a loss. They last loss in...September? Eventually luck runs out. There should be a fair number of Bills fans at the stadium too.