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He is so far past Lee Smith already.

I think as others have pointed out we have a lot of pretty good players but very little elite talent. And the biggest problem and mistake is we've paid some good but not great players high end money. That's gotta get rectified. Beane has to get more comfortable with letting his own draft picks walk when necessary. Based on our talent level we should not be near the cap. I also wish he'd be more aggressive trading. Not dinky trade ups or trade downs. Some GM's over value draft picks. Use them to bring in top level talent other teams are trying to offload.

dude blocks at an elite level and is getting open at critical moments. MASSIVE win for Beane on this pick

For those who like to study all-22, is Hawes a much better blocker than Knox?

If they do play them in the playoffs then I hope, it's in OP. For whatever reason the Bills can't seem to win in Houston.

There are plenty of examples where Beane has fallen short. A reasonable argument can be made that he's fallen short in this area as well. Look at the mid season acquisitions he has made the last few seasons. Consistently signing WRs because the roster isn't good, linebackers and defensive tackles off their couches. The theme for several years is the Bills have issues stopping the run, can't generate a consistent pass rush, and has a serious WR problem especially at the X position. Imho, the depth hasn't been good in any of these areas. Lastly, he's always made the decision to go cheap at the backup QB position. Thus far, the depth at that position hasn't been tested. With that said, if Allen goes done for an extended period of time you can kiss the season goodbye. In short, I think you are giving Beane too much credit here.

I'm not going to lie, my favorite part of when things start going sideways is when the finger pointing starts.........we're not there yet, but i'm willing to bet that when "the process" has run its course, there'll be pointing a-plenty.

That Sauce Gardiner trade is looking really bad right now.

You are right, I do know know what River's workout regime looks like, and I do not know the details of NFL conditioning programs. But I do see another former NFL QB of a similar vintage at my gym most days. He's not doing anything different than any of us other 40-somethings; just doing his own thing to stay in shape. I can't imagine Josh Allen or Aaron Rogers does anything in the gym without the eyes of a very experienced trainer with a very prescriptive program to get them through at 60-minute NFL game each week.

Cray, I hear you, but just as a point in detail, and not for team, but just for example purposes… If you ask me do I want to play in January the KC Chiefs, Houston or New England I am taking the Chiefs without even blinking. Because I don’t think this is a “don’t poke the bear” moment. I think there is something wrong with them. and I know, first hand, that Houston can beat us with their backup QB, throw our QB to the ground, and also the Pats just plain aren’t imploding after 10 or so straight weeks. I can’t go by the memory of what someone once did. You gotta be prepared for what’s ahead.

you humps are ALL effing wrong...at his best only half as good as Ertz...and if he doenst develop some pass-catching skills we can always move him to safety.

To me it would first require bills win the division over the patriots. So bills win out, and pats lose to buffalo and miami (i think this works or is close, but don't quote me). I'd also say that it would require that the rams finish a WC, and ideally with a worse record than Buffalo at 13-4. If that happened - Odd's aren't bad that buffalo is 1 in the conference (maybe 2 if denver tops in tiebreakers). And I would think Allen would have had a great stretch of games to get the team there.

How can we spend so much draft capital on our D and still have it suspect every year?.........and don't even get me started on our WR's. We've had many opportunities to hit the talent pool on both sides of the ball and always go with the mediocre, middle of the road option. UGH

If the Bills play houston again, I think Joe Brady will have learned his lesson on islanding his tackles as often as he did

personally i think Ty Johnson is just as good of a runner. He's almost 5 yards a carry this year and like 5.2 last year. Ty's 40yd time was significantly faster than Cook's combine time, doesn't fumble, better blocker, equally good receiver. I'm glad we have them both, but honestly I trust Ty with the ball running in traffic, he's not fumbling.

Depends what you mean by ceiling. If you're talking about in the passing game, I think he's kind of hit his ceiling already. He's far too elite and important as a blocking Tight End (which is what we Drafted him for) to have him abandoning that for routes and/or designed pass plays much more than he already is doing. He's a better Lee Smith or Quintin Morris. A guy that's primarily going to pass and run block for you at a high level, but will sneak a route or come off a block and get open to catch the occasional pass. I wouldn't expect to see him be a primary part of the passing game.

Agreed on Pitt. Baltimore and Houston on the road are a bit trickier. Neither scare me, but we don’t match up great with either.

it's an indictment of the whole FO. it should be apparent at this point McDermott foolishly wanted to play ball control and Beane foolishly shopped accordingly. and now that it's crunch time we see that as per usual the only path to a super bowl, in the easiest AFC probably ever, is going to be Allen going nuclear for 2+months they failed. point blank. maybe allen can rescue them...w this roster i doubt it. it would be one of the greatest quarterbacking feats in nfl history. but make no mistake- the second they start to feel one of these must win games slipping away you will see them immediately abandon their plan and go to Allen.

And the academy award for best script goes to... @boyst

I think, from his comments and how he has acted, he isnt happy with Beane and the talent on this roster. He knows what he has with Josh, Cook and the OL. He also knows we need help talent wise to get over the top

He's probably renting at this stage of his career, so maybe 8 feet? Unless it's a really old place or pehaps newer or contemporary then maybe 16 feet tops.

Beane cant draft on day two.

Ceiling is Jason Peters.

Now you’re stepping on teef’s toes.